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Ok so here goes,

I need to get the 4850 soon, they have a temp issue. All of them.

I'm looking at EITHER HIS or MSI. The HIS is cheaper and comes with a cool tool.
BUT, MSI have already released a bios update that fixes the idling fan speed etc.
HIS have not.

I know that the 1st batch of 4850s shared (most of them) the same bios.

My question is, in light of the various bios issues, package contents etc. which one of the two would you look at (assuming you have not bought one yet..) purchasing.

Landmarkpc.co.za has the MSI, and Eitai has the HIS.

I am really "Konfussed" or "op ged****r".
Is the MSI worth the extra mula?
:confused:
 
6600's are damn old now so i'd say they have lived a decent lengh life. I have seen many newer cards peg from all brands (XFX, Gainward, Sapphire etc). Actually havent had 1 MSI product returned.

Get the cheaper 4850 and slap on a aftermarket cooler.
 
Brawler said:
6600's are damn old now so i'd say they have lived a decent lengh life. I have seen many newer cards peg from all brands (XFX, Gainward, Sapphire etc). Actually havent had 1 MSI product returned.

Get the cheaper 4850 and slap on a aftermarket cooler.
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as brawler said, with the money you saving by getting the HIS, and they buy a good aftermarket cooler... it's well worth it, and if the card dies, well slap on the original cooler and tell them sweet lil lies :D

oh, I've been using a HIS x1600 pro ddr3 and I must say, it's held up well over the past 2 years, only thing is that the cooler is getting owned by dust, sounds like a tractor at time lol (the bearings might be going as well). but HIS are reliable :D.
 
yea 6600 is really old

i have never had a dead gpu

not ever seen a new gpu die either

identify if you can afford th 4870 rather look at that, its faster and better cooled but as brawler says just slap on an after market cooler

i think its rather shocking ati release a card with such heat problems
 
killadoob said:
yea 6600 is really old

i have never had a dead gpu

not ever seen a new gpu die either

identify if you can afford th 4870 rather look at that, its faster and better cooled but as brawler says just slap on an after market cooler

i think its rather shocking ati release a card with such heat problems
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ya, true, they should make a new one with much better cooling, or drop that void warranty if the standard cooling is removed...
 
I was just refering to my percieved build quality of MSI products due to the failures I have experienced agaisnt the failure rates of other brands.
 
iDenTiTy_CRiSiS said:
How did you do it again? CCC method or Bios update?
:confused:

Edit:

Oh and which card you have again? Brand? Happy?
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One of my reply in the 4850 review thread actually tells you how to manually adjust fan speed.

And about flashing BIOS to reduce temp, I saw multiple people on other forum ran into problems with their card after they flashed the BIOS.
 
cyberarmy said:
One of my reply in the 4850 review thread actually tells you how to manually adjust fan speed.

And about flashing BIOS to reduce temp, I saw multiple people on other forum ran into problems with their card after they flashed the BIOS.
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Bios flash = bad idea...
and...
80C is well with in the HD4850's operation range ;)
 
scotty777 said:
but is 80C in the operating range of the components around the HD4850 ???
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The worry is not the acceptable operating temps, but that were in Winter, what's gonna happen in Summer with ambient temps of ~ 26 degrees?

Remember, when we switch our pcs on now, the temps of the components are colder now than what they gonna be in summer...
 
But the fan should kick in to keep it there, even in summer. My 8800GT runs at 25% fan speed until about 88°, then it gradually increases up to about 39% until the temperature hits 94°/95°, where the fan stops it from getting any hotter. So it might use 50% fan speed in summer, but it'll keep the temperature at or under 95°.

The AMD/ATI cards should do the same.
 
WKJ?:beanie said:
But the fan should kick in to keep it there, even in summer. My 8800GT runs at 25% fan speed until about 88°, then it gradually increases up to about 39% until the temperature hits 94°/95°, where the fan stops it from getting any hotter. So it might use 50% fan speed in summer, but it'll keep the temperature at or under 95°.

The AMD/ATI cards should do the same.
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But that's the problem apparently. The current batch has a problem with the temp management.
They idle at roughly 75 degrees, and at load they go to about 85.
That means that the fan is not speeding up or lowering down correctly.

Your GeForce is doing things correctly.

Anyway I must get my card VERY soon, damn COD4 lags so badly it makes my eyes bleed...
 
iDenTiTy_CRiSiS said:
But that's the problem apparently. The current batch has a problem with the temp management.
They idle at roughly 75 degrees, and at load they go to about 85.
That means that the fan is not speeding up or lowering down correctly.

Your GeForce is doing things correctly.

Anyway I must get my card VERY soon, damn COD4 lags so badly it makes my eyes bleed...
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as we sad, there's two options, manually crank up the fan speed to say 50% or higher, or go out, spend R300 odd bucks and get a nice aftermarket cooler :p
and with an after market cooler you can get the temps down to the 30-40 degree range, which is really cool :D
 
iDenTiTy_CRiSiS said:
But that's the problem apparently. The current batch has a problem with the temp management.
They idle at roughly 75 degrees, and at load they go to about 85.
That means that the fan is not speeding up or lowering down correctly.

Your GeForce is doing things correctly.

Anyway I must get my card VERY soon, damn COD4 lags so badly it makes my eyes bleed...
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I don't know, that sounds as if the fan spins up quite a bit to me... Otherwise the temperature would just keep rising beyond 85 if it idles at 75. If it stays there it means the fan is maintaining the temperature.

Would be interesting to see whether the ambient temperatures will make a difference :)
 
scotty777 said:
as we sad, there's two options, manually crank up the fan speed to say 50% or higher, or go out, spend R300 odd bucks and get a nice aftermarket cooler :p
and with an after market cooler you can get the temps down to the 30-40 degree range, which is really cool :D
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Cool.

So the question then is: What is the cheapest aftermarket cooler than will fit the 4850? I cannot spend an extra R400 as my budget is already stretched...
 
iDenTiTy_CRiSiS said:
Cool.

So the question then is: What is the cheapest aftermarket cooler than will fit the 4850? I cannot spend an extra R400 as my budget is already stretched...
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Will a Zalman VF900-CU work on 4850? That's R233 from Take2
 
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