Battlefield 4 gives AMD hardware a performance boost

killadoob said:
Well not upgrading my 6990 so i don't really care :D. Is the amd support due to console possibly?
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looks like it, with all the hype over BF4 being "optimized" for AMD, plus the console's getting AMD GPU's. But wasn't there AMD optimized titles where the Nvidia out performed the AMD cards.
 
kyton said:
looks like it, with all the hype over BF4 being "optimized" for AMD, plus the console's getting AMD GPU's. But wasn't there AMD optimized titles where the Nvidia out performed the AMD cards.
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No idea hey, generally there will always be games where nvidia is better and amd is better. At the moment though i think AMD has the better products and nvidia are playing catch up. It has changed and i just buy what i think is the better product. I have owned in the last 4 or 5 years a 9800gx2 and a 6990. Both served me well thus far. Nvidia was much better than when i bought the 9800gx2 but the 6990 for the price was unrivaled by anything nvidia had on offer, apart from their 13k solutions but honestly i could have bought 2 6990's and kicked the 13k's ass at the time :D. Nvidia are struggling in my opinion, expensive and not as good as amd.

I have never been a fanboy, i have had amd cpu's, ati and nvidia cards along with intel cpu's and amd gpu's but basically ati :D. Silly to buy inferior products at the time due to loyalty. 8 core amd should be interesting to see bench marks for bf 4, although i do not think bf 4 is a port so a quad should still be fine. Ports are generally for games that won't sell well on pc. Bf 4 and titanfall should both be pc enhanced for sure. Doubt either of those games will use more than 4 cores but i have no idea.
 
What is DX 11.1 going to offer vs 11? Worth an upgrade?
 
biometrics said:
What is DX 11.1 going to offer vs 11? Worth an upgrade?
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DirectX 11.1 will have less of a performance hit this time round and will support features that AMD will be able to use such as a dynamic GPU buffer and the ability to use system memory as GPU memory.

While DirectX 11.1 isn’t a prerequisite to play Battlefield 4 as the game can run the DirectX 11 code path, enabling all the features and eye candy would require one to move to Windows 8.

DICE have also worked with AMD to make the game more scalable with multiple processors, and may be the second title published by Electronic Arts to fully utilise AMD’s eight-core FX processors. Says DICE, “We use DX11.1 [and] there are some optimizations in it (constant buffer offsets, dynamic buffers as SRVs) that improves CPU performance in our rendering when one runs with DX11.1.”
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Wow i just checked my 6990 is dx 11.1 capable, hells yea. I need to check the performance of the amd 8 core vs my 920 quadcore, might be time to go back to amd. If the 8 core performs better than my current 920.

What gpu do you have bio?
 
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killadoob said:
No idea hey, generally there will always be games where nvidia is better and amd is better. At the moment though i think AMD has the better products and nvidia are playing catch up. It has changed and i just buy what i think is the better product. I have owned in the last 4 or 5 years a 9800gx2 and a 6990. Both served me well thus far. Nvidia was much better than when i bought the 9800gx2 but the 6990 for the price was unrivaled by anything nvidia had on offer, apart from their 13k solutions but honestly i could have bought 2 6990's and kicked the 13k's ass at the time :D. Nvidia are struggling in my opinion, expensive and not as good as amd.

I have never been a fanboy, i have had amd cpu's, ati and nvidia cards along with intel cpu's and amd gpu's but basically ati :D. Silly to buy inferior products at the time due to loyalty. 8 core amd should be interesting to see bench marks for bf 4, although i do not think bf 4 is a port so a quad should still be fine. Ports are generally for games that won't sell well on pc. Bf 4 and titanfall should both be pc enhanced for sure. Doubt either of those games will use more than 4 cores but i have no idea.
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Damned right. AMD was king with Thunderbird, and a while after that, but Intel's Core processors put an end to that, and I switched. There is no sense in riding a dying wave.

I am glad that AMD is there for competition, but they need to jack up their performance (CPU) before I consider them again. I didn't have to tweak my Athlons to get stellar performance, it was just there. Now you have to OC to get close to Intel, which I CBA with.
 
killadoob said:
Wow i just checked my 6990 is dx 11.1 capable, hells yea. I need to check the performance of the amd 8 core vs my 920 quadcore, might be time to go back to amd. If the 8 core performs better than my current 920.

What gpu do you have bio?
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ATI 5850 and a 1st gen i5 with 2 GB RAM. It plays BF3 ok as I either use my 22" 1600x900 or 32" 1360x768.

But BF3 turned stale early for me. I'm hoping BF4 will get me into it again like BF2 did. I'm prepared to get new gear to make it worth while ...
 
biometrics said:
ATI 5850 and a 1st gen i5 with 2 GB RAM. It plays BF3 ok as I either use my 22" 1600x900 or 32" 1360x768.

But BF3 turned stale early for me. I'm hoping BF4 will get me into it again like BF2 did. I'm prepared to get new gear to make it worth while ...
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oh noes 2gb ram , just buy another 2gb stick , will make so much diffrence!!
 
FlatspinZA said:
Damned right. AMD was king with Thunderbird, and a while after that, but Intel's Core processors put an end to that, and I switched. There is no sense in riding a dying wave.

I am glad that AMD is there for competition, but they need to jack up their performance (CPU) before I consider them again. I didn't have to tweak my Athlons to get stellar performance, it was just there. Now you have to OC to get close to Intel, which I CBA with.
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So you want Intel to have overpriced CPUs like they have in the Pentium 4 era? Good to know.

biometrics said:
Not really. Mid game Windows still has 0.5 GB RAM free.

My whole rig needs to be replaced if I want to go 1080p.
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You should still get an extra 2Gigs. You'll see you RAM usage go up and you'll have that same 0.5GB free in game.
 
Chevron said:
You should still get an extra 2Gigs. You'll see you RAM usage go up and you'll have that same 0.5GB free in game.
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Not convinced.

In any case don't screw with a perfectly reasonable excuse to scrap it all and buy everything new ... ;)
 
biometrics said:
Not convinced.

In any case don't screw with a perfectly reasonable excuse to scrap it all and buy everything new ... ;)
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Basically programs scale RAM usage to what's available. So the more you have, the more they use.
 
biometrics said:
So half a GB RAM is being ignored. Erm no.
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Minimum requirements for Battlefield 3. OS: Windows Vista or Windows 7; Processor: Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or Althon X2 2.7 GHz; RAM: 2GB;
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Dice recommend 4gb+system memory. So i am going to take a shot in the dark and say you are running bf 3 using the pagefile, whether this creates dips in frame rate not sure. I never knew people had gaming rigs with 2gb memory. Can barely find a test or benchmark with a system running 2gb memory. I could not even test 2gb memory.

What is the size of your pagefile? Have you run fraps to check the FPS dips or not? If it's working then fine but i am wondering why you bought such a decent card yet only 2gb memory?
 
killadoob said:
Dice recommend 4gb+system memory. So i am going to take a shot in the dark and say you are running bf 3 using the pagefile, whether this creates dips in frame rate not sure. I never knew people had gaming rigs with 2gb memory. Can barely find a test or benchmark with a system running 2gb memory. I could not even test 2gb memory.

What is the size of your pagefile? Have you run fraps to check the FPS dips or not? If it's working then fine but i am wondering why you bought such a decent card yet only 2gb memory?
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The 2GB matches the rest of the PC: 1st gen i5 and a 5850. More RAM isn't going to help. And I run at lower res than you more than likely. Anyway I'll replace the lot. My newish laptop has an i7, 16 GB RAM and a 240 GB SSD. So you can imagine what I have in mind for a new games PC ...
 
biometrics said:
The 2GB matches the rest of the PC: 1st gen i5 and a 5850. More RAM isn't going to help. And I run at lower res than you more than likely. Anyway I'll replace the lot. My newish laptop has an i7, 16 GB RAM and a 240 GB SSD. So you can imagine what I have in mind for a new games PC ...
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I don't why you're so resistant. An extra 2GBs will make a HUGE difference to your PC.
 
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