Being caught lying about university degree

[tridev]

@tridev why did you lie about your degree?

I commented about someone at my company being caught out.

I did do that whole wear a dress and little cap and handed piece of paper by the dean. Never framed it or hanged it on my wall though.

 

[RudderVator]

GCSE is Cambridge so that's easy to get, Zimsec certificates also not that difficult to get hold of.

Indeed. Should be easily verified as they still operate a worldwide exam system. Plenty of anti copy holograms and codes on a real certificate but results should be stored.

 

[Moosedrool]

Thing is there are stuff uni teaches you which no one uses in the workplace. It's easy to see straight through a person's lying about his/her degree.

How many BSC holders integrates a 3d function at their work?
How many BENG holders writes out those linear algebra stuff you learned in TCS.
Does any of you actually write out pseudo code for a project?

The subjects alone is enough to catch a high level language dev out that they lied. I don't know a lot of people without a IT degree who can actually code with pointers in C or C++

 

[syntax]

I work at a company and one of the senior devs got caught out lying about his university degree where a client he was subcontracted to has a requirement of background check. He resigned of course after he was caught. Must have been awkward. Ironically he would never have been caught as there is only one client that validates qualifications. All the others clients my company has don't. So it was bad luck on his part it happened but it happened after he was employed a few months .

I know this is quite common in South Africa's government and SOEs but IT companies don't very often verify qualifications and just trust people. I find the knowledge you get in a degree becomes outdated fast and that it really doesn't matter if you apply for software dev roles and he should have rather excluded his degree and applied just with his experience.

Every company I have worked at or had interactions with have checked this.
Especially companies that get credits or vendor advancement based on certifications.
A certain qualification helps the vendor path and therefore needs to be validated

 

[skimread]

Every company I have worked at or had interactions with have checked this.
Especially companies that get credits or vendor advancement based on certifications.
A certain qualification helps the vendor path and therefore needs to be validated

Certs can easily be verified with the vendor. Uni degrees have a cost associated with verifications by a 3rd party. Hence it is not common to verify them.

 

[syntax]

Certs can easily be verified with the vendor. Uni degrees have a cost associated with verifications by a 3rd party. Hence it is not common to verify them.

For us and almost any company I have worked for and know, both are verified by a 3rd party and are relatively inexpensive.
Vendor verification is typically after they are hired and moved onto the company profile to get the benefits of the certification

 

[skimread]

For us and almost any company I have worked for and know, both are verified by a 3rd party and are relatively inexpensive.

Cost?

 

[syntax]

Cost?

I have asked our HR department, I think you pay per cert / qualification and its somewhere in the region of R120 per check.
Will give exact amount when they get back to me

 

[CamiKaze]

Since when is a degree a requirement for a job?

One of my previous managers told me that a certificate means more than a degree.
The HR at my previous company told me that you need "hustler" experience.

 

[LandyMan]

I work at a company and one of the senior devs got caught out lying about his university degree where a client he was subcontracted to has a requirement of background check. He resigned of course after he was caught. Must have been awkward. Ironically he would never have been caught as there is only one client that validates qualifications. All the others clients my company has don't. So it was bad luck on his part it happened but it happened after he was employed a few months .

I know this is quite common in South Africa's government and SOEs but IT companies don't very often verify qualifications and just trust people. I find the knowledge you get in a degree becomes outdated fast and that it really doesn't matter if you apply for software dev roles and he should have rather excluded his degree and applied just with his experience.

Incorrect. I can't tell you how many times I was fingerprinted and all checks done through MIE after being retrenched. These days, if you don't check, you are dumb

 

[cguy]

Since when is a degree a requirement for a job?

One of my previous managers told me that a certificate means more than a degree.
The HR at my previous company told me that you need "hustler" experience.

Depends on the degree.
Depends on the certificate.
Mostly, it depends on the job.

 

[Kosmik]

I'll just leave this one here

 

[syntax]

Cost?

So R68 for a normal certification check
each university is different but ranges in the R100 mark

At these prices it would almost be negligent not to check a candidate who is applying along with credit and criminal record