Being shafted by MWEB!

I can see why you would argue that it's a minor issue, but if you added every R100 of every customer up it becomes a considerable amount of money. For a company to make a decision like this they have to weigh the financial impact up against the possible bad PR. I am merely raising the point that the ethics of this decision is questionable.

Jealousy you say... I put it to you sir, that your argument is a selfish one, evident in the fact that because you are not entitled to benefit, you do not care...

:-)

I may be wrong, but I don't think many folks around here will consider this bad PR. They put the deal out, you missed it, like satanboy says: cry me a river.

I can almost guarantee you the guy on the phone did not know about the price reduction otherwise it would have been in the media way earlier.
 
I can see why you would argue that it's a minor issue, but if you added every R100 of every customer up it becomes a considerable amount of money. For a company to make a decision like this they have to weigh the financial impact up against the possible bad PR. I am merely raising the point that the ethics of this decision is questionable.

The possible bad PR appears to be you, so far, I don't think they have to worry. :p

I don't think the ethics are questionable, personally, but that's just my opinion - It seems a logistical issue to me, not some shadowy boardroom decision, as you seem to be implying.

Jealousy you say... I put it to you sir, that your argument is a selfish one, evident in the fact that because you are not entitled to benefit, you do not care...

:-)

I'm quite tired, but if I understand all this correctly, someone with a current 1MB account, will pay R299 for June, yes? Guess what I am using to transmit this message right now...
 
OP, if you fill up your car with petrol and then 3 days later the government decides to drop petrol prices, do you go back to the petrol station and demand the difference back?
 
I can see why you would argue that it's a minor issue, but if you added every R100 of every customer up it becomes a considerable amount of money. For a company to make a decision like this they have to weigh the financial impact up against the possible bad PR. I am merely raising the point that the ethics of this decision is questionable.

Jealousy you say... I put it to you sir, that your argument is a selfish one, evident in the fact that because you are not entitled to benefit, you do not care...

:-)

whine whine moan moan whine whine moan moan.
 
Actually R199?! :D

Oh, didn't understand that correctly then. Well, my point still stands, my attitude is the same, with or without this knowledge.

*edit*

Wait, huh?

The new MWEB pricing will be available immediately to all new customers, while existing MWEB subscribers will be automatically upgraded from 1 June 2012.
 
OP, if you fill up your car with petrol and then 3 days later the government decides to drop petrol prices, do you go back to the petrol station and demand the difference back?

Lol exactly what I was thinking, my one went like this though: "it's basically like going to a shop and paying R5 for a sweetie, the next day you go to the shop and find out the price was decreased to R3 and now you feel entitled to complain about it."
 
OP, if you fill up your car with petrol and then 3 days later the government decides to drop petrol prices, do you go back to the petrol station and demand the difference back?

Conversely, I want to ask you that if you spent R10,000 on an LCD TV on Friday, and the very next day you see the same TV advertised at the same retailer for R6,999, (This happens believe me I work in retail), would you feel OK about it? Would you still have the same stance?
 
Lol exactly what I was thinking, my one went like this though: "it's basically like going to a shop and paying R5 for a sweetie, the next day you go to the shop and find out the price was decreased to R3 and now you feel entitled to complain about it."

I don't know which Cafe you go to, but at mine sweeties never go down... :-)
 
Conversely, I want to ask you that if you spent R10,000 on an LCD TV on Friday, and the very next day you see the same TV advertised at the same retailer for R6,999, (This happens believe me I work in retail), would you feel OK about it? Would you still have the same stance?

It boggles the mind, this attitude.

It actually seems like you'd prefer the people offering a product to keep it at a static price, for fear of offending prior customers. That is absolutely absurd. You win some, you lose some...

By your logic, prices would never drop, and if they did, the businesses would have to contact all previous customers (within a subjective window period), and offer them the difference...
 
It boggles the mind, this attitude.

It actually seems like you'd prefer the people offering a product to keep it at a static price, for fear of offending prior customers. That is absolutely absurd. You win some, you lose some...

No at all! As I have said in the OP, I am very happy with the price reduction. It fundamentally bothers me that the 'Billing cycle' is used as an excuse for Mweb to make the last bit of profit out of their customers when they are benefitting from the IPC price reduction from 1 April. Mweb was first to market with a price reduction, but it was done arse about face. The correct way to do it would have been to make the price reduction effective immediately to all customers, new and existing. Now it only smells of a half baked marketing stunt!
 
Conversely, I want to ask you that if you spent R10,000 on an LCD TV on Friday, and the very next day you see the same TV advertised at the same retailer for R6,999, (This happens believe me I work in retail), would you feel OK about it? Would you still have the same stance?

Perfectly fine, in fact that's exactly what happened to me. Bought a TV for R 8.5k, 2 months later it's R 6k on special. It obviously would've been better to get it at the reduced price but nothing's wrong with the product, the store didn't trick me (as other stores were selling it for R 9k at the time) and no party knew that the manufacturer would be reducing prices 2 months later. So if it's anyone's fault, it's mine for not waiting but then I thought of how I wanted to get a TV when I moved into my new place so it was money well spent.

By your logic, I might as well have waited 2 years to get it for 1/10th of the price.
 
No at all! As I have said in the OP, I am very happy with the price reduction. It fundamentally bothers me that the 'Billing cycle' is used as an excuse for Mweb to make the last bit of profit out of their customers when they are benefitting from the IPC price reduction from 1 April. Mweb was first to market with a price reduction, but it was done arse about face. The correct way to do it would have been to make the price reduction effective immediately to all customers, new and existing. Now it only smells of a half baked marketing stunt!

Well, perhaps you should apply for a job at MWEB, and tell them how it's done.

Anyway, you're entitled to your annoyance about all this - I think you are being petty and unreasonable, so we're at a bit of a stand-off.

May as well let it lie.
 
No at all! As I have said in the OP, I am very happy with the price reduction. It fundamentally bothers me that the 'Billing cycle' is used as an excuse for Mweb to make the last bit of profit out of their customers when they are benefitting from the IPC price reduction from 1 April. Mweb was first to market with a price reduction, but it was done arse about face. The correct way to do it would have been to make the price reduction effective immediately to all customers, new and existing. Now it only smells of a half baked marketing stunt!

You think that it's a simple flick of a switch then? Seems that you have no clue how financial systems work...
 
I don't nor do I feel entitled to something *just* because I was one day early to the special. Have you actually asked them nicely for a refund of R100 after May or did you just demand?

Maybe he didn't ask mweb at all. They must just read his mind.
 
Thanks for the pre-prepared reply... I understand that. As I have said it's a principle matter. If the billing cycle has already closed then fine. I just feel you should say to ALL your existing customers: Hey you guys are not getting screwed, here's R100 credit on your account for the month of May, and then deduct R100 less on 1 June. If Mweb was not prepared to look at their existing customers as well as new customers then they should have announced this on 1 May and not today.

I'm sure there must have been a boardroom where this decision was made, and I would have loved to hear the rationale behind Mweb's stance towards existing customers!

Are you retarded? Or do you just like your little soapbox here? I ask this sincerely because I do not want to offend you with the following:

Go work in accounting and product development. You'll get a tiny glimpse of how a company with several hundred thousand clients work.

It's roughly 12 days from the 1st of May. This means the billing run for the next month has had to start already for them to be on time with the debit orders and invoice generation. This isn't something that you click a button and magically happens within a few hours. It literally takes a week or 2 preparation to run this at this magnitude.

Having worked with debit order billing before, I can tell you now the whole "oh sorry the debit order runs in the next 5 days and we can't stop it now" is a bull**** story. The reason for that is simple, they have more than just 1 client and stopping 1 debit order means regenerating the ENTIRE database for publishing to the bank which in turn would need a few days to run that many clients at once to be able to "hit" everyone on the same day (never mind verifying the data so they don't make a mistake and bill you double or triple the amount)

Because you are one (of many many others) who has accounts with MWEB during the current billing cycle (which is now closed and busy processing), you're not able to benefit from the price change announced today. MWEB probably waited till the current billing cycle came to a close before they made the decision to make the announcement as to avoid any more confusion. You got an entire month free. What the hell are you bitching about?

Why did MWEB not wait till the 1st of May to issue the press release? WHY SHOULD THEY? It's marketing. Something, if they didn't act on it immediately, they would lose. Go surf YouTube for once in your life and actually READ the comments on most videos. "First!!!!!!". The general mentality of true competitive behavior between companies is to "out-do" the other company by releasing products faster and/or press releases re: price reductions quicker.

If MWEB was 3rd to reduce their pricing, wouldn't you feel ripped off? If MWEB was 3nd in releasing an uncapped product, wouldn't you just think it's a knee-jerk reaction to the other companies that did it first? How many clients do you think the first 2 companies would have signed up if they were before MWEB? Much more than MWEB would coming in 3rd, that's for sure.

So, I say this with the utmost respect. Grow the **** up, get a job, work in the real world with the rest of us and just keep your eyes open on how business works. Let mommy & daddy take care of the money for you like they do now. You have no right to be pissed off and I for one hope that MWEB uses the clause in their T&C to stop providing you with services because they CAN and you're just being a rude, unintelligent ******* with a soapbox being bored on a Tuesday. (THATS MY JOB BUDDY!)
 
Clearly you have a clue about financial system and it's inner workings. Throw in payroll and it gets fun :)
Are you retarded? Or do you just like your little soapbox here? I ask this sincerely because I do not want to offend you with the following:

Go work in accounting and product development. You'll get a tiny glimpse of how a company with several hundred thousand clients work.

It's roughly 12 days from the 1st of May. This means the billing run for the next month has had to start already for them to be on time with the debit orders and invoice generation. This isn't something that you click a button and magically happens within a few hours. It literally takes a week or 2 preparation to run this at this magnitude.

Having worked with debit order billing before, I can tell you now the whole "oh sorry the debit order runs in the next 5 days and we can't stop it now" is a bull**** story. The reason for that is simple, they have more than just 1 client and stopping 1 debit order means regenerating the ENTIRE database for publishing to the bank which in turn would need a few days to run that many clients at once to be able to "hit" everyone on the same day (never mind verifying the data so they don't make a mistake and bill you double or triple the amount)

Because you are one (of many many others) who has accounts with MWEB during the current billing cycle (which is now closed and busy processing), you're not able to benefit from the price change announced today. MWEB probably waited till the current billing cycle came to a close before they made the decision to make the announcement as to avoid any more confusion. You got an entire month free. What the hell are you bitching about?
 
Conversely, I want to ask you that if you spent R10,000 on an LCD TV on Friday, and the very next day you see the same TV advertised at the same retailer for R6,999, (This happens believe me I work in retail), would you feel OK about it? Would you still have the same stance?

Holy ****, you work in retail and you don't know anything about how accounting/finance/bill runs work?

You must be the dude I ignore when I go buy my LCD TV...
 
Clearly you have a clue about financial system and it's inner workings. Throw in payroll and it gets fun :)

I didn't touch on the subject for a reason. All I know is you need the riot police when payroll is a day late because of some technical issues.
 
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