Big ADSL plans in 2009

Telkom, which operates SAT3 and is also a SAT3 consortium shareholder, said that the addition of SEACOM would most certainly contribute to healthy competition.

...but, of course, Telkom ADSL subscribers would see no benefit at all, since Telkom won't be buying any bandwidth from SEACOM (after all, it wasn't their idea) so they'll continue to use expensive SAT-3/SAFE bandwidth, with a 1000% markup, as before.
 
I can see Neohell shaking hands with telscum right now, neohell never really cared about end users, they only cared about their corporate clients, which is great for telscum to use cheaper bandwidth and continue to milk end users, the net result is more milk for less input.

Now thats the "commercial sensitive" they are refering to.
 
Sure, it will probably happen some day.... I'll just wait and see )

In money grabbing corrupt Africa? Never! Just wait and see. Next we will hear is all about the 10% savings gained which Telkom would match with pleasure and everyone here would hail it as the new era in cheap communications.

We are suckers for exploitation.

PS: 2010 will be the next excuse. Invested money to be recovered.
 
just offer me 512k/1meg line and 10gig package as a minimum and i'll be happy.....oh at the same price if not less than I am paying for my 384k line etc.
but watch, we'll be screwed over. positive thoughts...positive thoughts.
 
So Pessimistic. I can recall paying R2000 a month for my 56K modem account 12 years ago, which would disconnect without any cause whatsoever. We have seen some dark days in the past. Now that the clouds finally start to clear, people keep looking at the clouds?... start look at the blue. It might still rain, but there is Blue in the sky people.

Telkom was Hell back then. IMO they have come down a lot since those days. True, we aren't on par with the rest of the world. But compare us now to us 5 years ago. Its a big step.

I ain't saying this is going to fix everything. And Neotel was never the answer, I was never sure why everyone always thought they would Bail us out from Telkom-Jail.

But a new Cable, not linked to Telkom in anyway? Sounds good to me. Even if it just means Telkom has to cut their costs 10%. Its still that little bit closer to a better future for us.
 
ahahahaha! You'll forgive me if I don't jump out of my chair at this news! :p

/me goes back to sleep. :rolleyes:
 
...but, of course, Telkom ADSL subscribers would see no benefit at all, since Telkom won't be buying any bandwidth from SEACOM (after all, it wasn't their idea) so they'll continue to use expensive SAT-3/SAFE bandwidth, with a 1000% markup, as before.

Ah, but if it breaks the monopoly, Telkom will have to bring their prices down. And if they don't, you'll have somewhere else to go.
 
I remember an article where the SEACOM peeps said, if I remember correctly, 10 times cheaper international bandwidth.

If a product is 10 times cheaper, it means the supplier now has to pay the user 9 times what the user was previously paying. A product 1 times cheaper would be free. I'm sure they used a percentage like 70% or 80%.
 
So Pessimistic. I can recall paying R2000 a month for my 56K modem account 12 years ago, which would disconnect without any cause whatsoever. We have seen some dark days in the past. Now that the clouds finally start to clear, people keep looking at the clouds?... start look at the blue. It might still rain, but there is Blue in the sky people.

Telkom was Hell back then. IMO they have come down a lot since those days. True, we aren't on par with the rest of the world. But compare us now to us 5 years ago. Its a big step.

I ain't saying this is going to fix everything. And Neotel was never the answer, I was never sure why everyone always thought they would Bail us out from Telkom-Jail.

But a new Cable, not linked to Telkom in anyway? Sounds good to me. Even if it just means Telkom has to cut their costs 10%. Its still that little bit closer to a better future for us.
Yeah, point in case! just what I said. We are easy, very gullible, objects for exploitation. Thats why it will never end.
 
Telkom, which operates SAT3 and is also a SAT3 consortium shareholder, said that the addition of SEACOM would most certainly contribute to healthy competition.

how modest can they possibly be, lol
 
Yeah, point in case! just what I said. We are easy, very gullible, objects for exploitation. Thats why it will never end.

:/ Are you still paying 2 grand a month for a 4.8kb/s download?
Getting latency to MMO's of 1000ms still?

We have moved forward. Even if the Nay-Sayers would like to believe otherwise.

This is just another step in the right direction, don't mistake it for a Full-speed sprint.
 
we are pessimistic because: If it wasn't for fifa 2010 then there probably wouldn't even have been a seacom and telkom would keep on ripping us off for the next 10-20 years. Now that things seems like they should finally start to change, the more it seems to stay the same.

They just want to give the world a good picture of africa, as a continent where people can afford a decent living comparable to other places on earth.

As soon as the world cup is over they will go back to exploiting people for the little things again..
As long as the goverment owns and allows the regulator of our telecoms to charge us line rental fee's there will never be hope on the horison.


You can't compete with the goverment -.-
 
...but, of course, Telkom ADSL subscribers would see no benefit at all, since Telkom won't be buying any bandwidth from SEACOM (after all, it wasn't their idea) so they'll continue to use expensive SAT-3/SAFE bandwidth, with a 1000% markup, as before.

Remember, that this isn't much good news for people who are still stuck in their 24 month contracts, atleast until it's over. So the best thing to do now if you're not in a contract, is to wait about 6-8 months to see what happens. Stick with a month to month or prepaid for now.

we are pessimistic because: If it wasn't for fifa 2010 then there probably wouldn't even have been a seacom and telkom would keep on ripping us off for the next 10-20 years. Now that things seems like they should finally start to change, the more it seems to stay the same.

They just want to give the world a good picture of africa, as a continent where people can afford a decent living comparable to other places on earth.

As soon as the world cup is over they will go back to exploiting people for the little things again..
As long as the goverment owns and allows the regulator of our telecoms to charge us line rental fee's there will never be hope on the horison.


You can't compete with the goverment -.-

I think we should rather be harsher on our government, than on Telkom/Hellkom/Telscum, Neotel/Neohel, etc.
Remember, Telkom, and all the other telecommunications companies, are in it for the money, can you blame them? They're big businesses whose priority is maximising profits. They only have concern for doing good in the public's eyes when it affects their image. That's just how business works, all over the world.
However, our government's priority is the interest and wellbeing of it's citizens and the stability of the country. That means they need to be investing our taxes and whatever other income into developing the nation where it needs to be developed.
One of the most important areas that need deeloping is our education and employment opportunites. If we can get that up to standard and beyond, then everything else should, in theory, fall into place. I believe though, that they lack the vision to see that and take hold of opportunities and spearhead projects like SEACOM and ESSAY and the likes.

The digital age requires that every human being be computer, and internet literate if they are to survive and be successful and contribute to their communities and the world. Soon, it's going to be extremely difficult for people to live in a world of computers if they can't operate one at all.
We need to follow the examples of India, and Korea, and Singapore, and China. Where their governments' invested millions and billions and trillions into developing their telecommunications infrastructure. Just see how their economies have grown and how their people are being able to uplift and empower themselves and in turn do the same for others.

The bottomline is, we need an ethical revolution and a more intelligent leadership!
 
so the change will start middle of this year then, if Seacom lands on time (june)

/gets rubberduck and paddles to go help
 
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