Billboard on highway

daveza said:
That's the one, almost the only one, that gets used here more often than a 5 Rand hooker - yet it has debatable validity.

Let's say I'm more anti the Israeli govt than I am pro-palestinian, but I just don't buy the Israel is innocent, palestinians are all guilty bs.

Certainly the Israeli govt are more than somewhat responsible for whatever negative sentiment comes their way.
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I do not blindly support the the Israeli government either. I do support the right of Israel to exist, and the right of Palestinians to have their own state. I long for the day that both could co-exist peacefully, in fact for all nations to co-exist peacefully.
 
Electron1 said:
I do not blindly support the the Israeli government either. I do support the right of Israel to exist, and the right of Palestinians to have their own state. I long for the day that both could co-exist peacefully, in fact for all nations to co-exist peacefully.
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Most people do but seem to fear any criticism of Israel in fear of being a supporter of terrorism or antisemite. Pro Israelis use these retorts as a defence mechanism.
Speak out against it, don't be afraid.
 
The Arab propagandists and apologists almost never mentions the Arab assaults and aggressions against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1968, and 1973. The Middle East war continues because it is really an Arab-Israeli war, not an Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In many ways an Islamic religious jihad against the Jews.
 
BBSA said:
The Arab propagandists and apologists almost never mentions the Arab assaults and aggressions against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1968, and 1973. The Middle East war continues because it is really an Arab-Israeli war, not an Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In many ways an Islamic religious jihad against the Jews.
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And Israel... how did that state came to be, was it like the anc who was first in South Africa?
 
BBSA said:
Pr⊕phet said:
And Israel... how did that state came to be, was it like the anc who was first in South Africa?
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Are you saying they do not have a right to exist?
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BBSA can't read well ? That is is strange.

Question read: How did Isreal came to be.
BBSA responds: Are you saying they do not have a right to exist?

Somehow that seems wrong.

Shall we try again: Since you guys seems to be very well versed in the matters of Isreal... How did the state of Israel came to be?

Implied: Seems that they sprung forth from nothing just like ANC did in RSA.

Now. I hope that was more clear. I don't see myself retyping this again.
 
Pr⊕phet said:
Shall we try again: Since you guys seems to be very well versed in the matters of Isreal... How did the state of Israel came to be?
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The process probably started after the collapse of the Turkish empire and the Peel commission and league of nations promising the areas of the Palestinian mandate to the Jews, though world events and the politics of the time changed this.
Modern day Israel formed from the UN partition of what was left of that area:

wiki summary here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

State of Israel (1948-present)

On May 14, 1948, the last British forces left through Haifa. The next day, in a public ceremony in Tel-Aviv, Ben-Gurion read out the Israeli Declaration of Independence, naming the new country, Israel.

Both superpower leaders, U.S. President Harry S. Truman (de facto) and Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, immediately recognized the new state.
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lived666 said:
The process probably started after the collapse of the Turkish empire and the Peel commission and league of nations promising the areas of the Palestinian mandate to the Jews, though world events and the politics of the time changed this.
Modern day Israel formed from the UN partition of what was left of that area:

wiki summary here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
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Thanks, any good additional reading ?
 
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/balfour_declaration_of_1917.htm

The Balfour Declaration of 1917

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)

British Mandate for Palestine:
The mandate document formalised the division of the British protectorates - Palestine, to include a national home for the Jewish people, under direct British rule, and Transjordan, an Emirate governed semi-autonomously from Britain under the rule of the Hashemite family
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Commission

The Peel Commission of 1936-1937, formally known as the Palestine Royal Commission, was a British Royal Commission of Inquiry set out to propose changes to the British Mandate for Palestine following the outbreak of the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine. It was headed by Lord Peel.

According to the Peel Commission report, Arab allegations regarding Jewish land purchase were unfounded. "Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchase
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The report recommended that the Mandate be eventually abolished — except in a "corridor" surrounding Jerusalem, stretching to the Mediterranean coast at Jaffa — and the land under its authority (and accordingly, the transfer of both Arab and Jewish populations) be apportioned between an Arab and Jewish state
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The Arab leadership in Palestine rejected the plan,[6][7] arguing that the Arabs had been promised independence and granting rights to the Jews was a betrayal. The Arabs emphatically rejected the principle of awarding any territory to the Jews
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Found out the billboards are funded by an American, he does it all around the world, no he's not a Muslim.
 
The owners of the billboard space near Wits. The one that was removed were on radio this morning. I found it interesting that the pro-Israel guys say they had that one removed but didn't appeal for the others to get removed because those billboards are owned by a Muslim company and they thought the Muslim may be sympathetic to the cause. What racist nonsense is that! Why didn't they go to ASA and complain?
 
marine1 said:
Until I see hard proof, I will not believe it, still think Habib had something to do with it.
Prove me wrong?
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Saw a bunch of Jewish activists protesting outside Reggies toy store against the JNF, after chatting about their cause and views about the israel palestinian situation the sweet lady told me a Henry Clifford puts up these boards around the world.

And just FYI there was about 200+ Jewish activists protesting around SA today, guess my views made up.
 
marine1 said:
Until I see hard proof, I will not believe it, still think Habib had something to do with it.
Prove me wrong?
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R13... said:
The owners of the billboard space near Wits. The one that was removed were on radio this morning. I found it interesting that the pro-Israel guys say they had that one removed but didn't appeal for the others to get removed because those billboards are owned by a Muslim company and they thought the Muslim may be sympathetic to the cause. What racist nonsense is that! Why didn't they go to ASA and complain?
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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...ro-North-Henry-Clifford-Israel-162301946.html

Wrong.
 
Haldex said:
Saw a bunch of Jewish activists protesting outside Reggies toy store against the JNF, after chatting about their cause and views about the israel palestinian situation the sweet lady told me a Henry Clifford puts up these boards around the world.

And just FYI there was about 200+ Jewish activists protesting around SA today, guess my views made up.
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How do you know the activists were Jewish?
 
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