Billing / Accounts Problems...

asqus

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Excuse the vent below, but I am enraged!

On the 18 or so of this month, after quering an invoice several times to no avail, I had R1400 taken out of my account by iBurst, ostensibly because they had not billed me since the 1st of March. This is not strictly the case, and I therefore have severe reservations about iBurst removing this cash from me.

The most frustrating thing about this is not the total ineptitude of their billing system, it is the total lack of communication coming from the accounts department, and the insultingly amateur communication coming from Mr. Green himself.

Anyway, to continue my story: I was told by Sonette Louw, when I first queried the invoice, that my concerns would be attended to, and that I would not be billed until such a time. Well lo and behold, a few days later the money was out of my account and nobody would respond to any of my emails anymore.

Basically, they 'took my money and ran'.

I contacted Shaun Green about the matter and, to this date, despite sending several well written, point form emails (and some rather heated rants) all I have received are a couple of glib one-liners (after a pause of several days) and the kind of disinterested fobbing off that usually sounds the death knell for such a young company.

This brings me to the core of my post: how did someone so obviously unsuitable for the role of Regional Manager obtain such a title?

Is Mr. Green related to someone higher up? Is nepotism at work here? Did he bullsh*t his way through the interview? I mean, the guy can't deal with a single customer effectively - how on earth can he be expected to deal with an entire company!?!?

If there were any other vaguely applicable broadband service providers in SA, I would be out of my 24 month contract in a flash, and would personally stick my UT-D up Mr. Green's lazy, self-righteous, dismissive *rse. Without lubrication.

I just really can't understand how a company like iBurst can be so dramatically mismanaged, yet still convince so many of us to sign up for its misleading service - a service that includes no customer relationship management, the world's most incompetent helpdesk staff, and people as rude and dismissive as Shaun Green.

Ah well, here's hoping for some competition....

Side note: I phoned Sasan and bitched about the billing problem. He offered me some BRANDED IBURST CAPS AND TSHIRTS as compensation! What a laugh huh? Sorry we can't do anything about your cash, which we effectively stole from your account (billing discrepancies should be resolved to the mutual satisfaction of all parties involved before billing occurs, imho!) but here, do some free advertising for us.

Sometimes I just feel like walking up to that 21st floor and throttling someone, all the time screaming, 'now will you answer my f**king email!?!?'

*sigh*

Okay, I feel better now :)
 
Mate i think u just had a bad experience.
Shaun is the ONLY one there who knows whats going on. He reads these forums and really does try and help all of us at once. I would take it up with their accounts dept not him. Sorry to hear about your experience maybe get the bank to reverse it as you did not authorize that ammount.
I must tell you Shaun really helped me out when no one else there would and he helped me out BIG TIME.

Good luck.
Craig
 
asqus gather all your evidence and go to your local police station and lay a charge of theft and be sure to tell wbs about these actions.

perhaps the they will offer you more then t shirts and caps... dont knwo whats funnier though. getting offered tshirts and caps or the fact they have iburst printed on them... lol...

ah... so who thinks wbs is this super professional isp?
 
Just for the record, I have renamed this thread, to reflect the nature of what asqus is ranting about versus a personal attack on Shaun Green.

If others have more to share about billing / accounts problems, go ahead...;)
 
I think the problem with the police is that you will lay a charge against a corperation, which is seen as an individual in the eyes of the law, and yet cant be arrested. perhaps a charge will at least look good if you decide to sue, which brings me to the question of the hour: What are you going to do asqus?
 
craigsa: I too have been helped by Shaun before and, until this unfortunate juncture, regarded him (along with Sasan) as one of the only 2 people worth dealing with. Unfortunately he has really not come to the party on this occasion. If you saw the email trail you would understand. I don't feel right posting the emails here, but they really don't show WBS in a very good light.

halicon: I have chosen to pursue a different (and more effective) solution to the problem. I cannot disclose this yet, however, as that would potentially allow WBS to be one step ahead of the game. More to follow ;)

ic: A fair enough move.

slimothy: too true. Have you seen the great documentary 'The Corporation'?
www.thecorporation.com
 
I hear you mate, obviously u had a bad experience. According to my knowledge which may be very limited in this field: You signed a deit order for (Lets say) R699 therefore they cannot deduct more than that per month and the bank must reverse the order.

Is this not correct ? I am with Nedbank and have benn all my life. I have a good relationship with them and fell that if this happened they would have to reverse the ammount over what i signed for.
 
I've found that Shaun Green bullsh1ts his way into making you believe he knows whats going on and is helping you. The sheer fact that he convinced so many people that he is infact HELPING them is the wool they're pulling over your eyes to shut you up for longer so they can extort more money off you.

To those who wondering how they still convince people to sign up : word of mouth. They created the hype by being uncapped with no restrictions pre-launch. Thats how. Many people still tell their friends etc. But the same thing that got them as many users, will also get them to lose AS many users. Just look what happened to Sentech. It will take them YEARS to get even the slightest trust back from their old users.

I've learnt 2 things :

1) If they f@ck with your money once, they'll most probably do it again
2) If the service they offered before, turns into a load of bullsh1t and carries on for longer than a month, with all probability, it will stay that way.

I've given them the 2 months I promised I will to see if they sorted out the crap, they didn't. Good bye
 
thats gonna be a bitch when they finally bill you for 6 or more months at one time
 
Dear Asqus,

I responded to your e-mail in the way I did with good reason.

I take every opportunity to try and assist with Iburst related issues at any time of the day. I will not respond to extreme profanity. I asked you to cool down and contact me then, so that we can discuss your problem.

Do you actually expect anyone to assist you if you insult them to the degree that you have?

The personal insults you have placed in writing will not be tolerated by myself!

To the rest of the community - We understand that we are not perfect.....we have however come a long way and are continiously improving.

Shaun
 
ahhhh and so it happens - 3 sides to every story. Well i got to agree with Shaun, if you use profanity then how do u expect to get anything done??

Got to talk nicely to people and its amazing what they do. Shaun was unblvbl to me and i spoke nicely and did not sear and shout and he did bend over backwards for me.
I have complained on this forum before so please dont think i have any links with WBS or IBURST.
 
slimothy said:
thats gonna be a bitch when they finally bill you for 6 or more months at one time
R699*6=R4194 :eek:
Man, limnos is gonna be pissed the day they debit his account. My buddy hasn't been billed since October 2004 :eek: In June he can expect R5592 :eek: to be removed from his account. Ouch!
 
hey shaun i only got 28.08mgs left how about an extra 2 gigs free? ha ha just kidding mate.
 
noone said:
I've found that Shaun Green bullsh1ts his way into making you believe he knows whats going on and is helping you. The sheer fact that he convinced so many people that he is infact HELPING them is the wool they're pulling over your eyes to shut you up for longer so they can extort more money off you.

finally!

someone else with a brain!

wake up people... shaun green is a bullsh1tter of note!... help? pffft? the only help he has given me is the number for a techie who DID help me!
 
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