Blacks only shebeens

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I just read an article that mentioned "blacks only shebeen. Won't link to it because its a dodgy article....

Just want to hear if anyone has ever heard of such a thing? I find it difficult to believe that anyone would set such a rule...bar keepers in my experience like the kind of people with money regardless of skin-colour.

Just curious if anyone knows if these exist ( never been to a shebeen nevermind a blacks only:o )

Oh and mods - please lock this thread by request of OP as soon the discussion goes sideways.
 
Can hardly think of a shebeen that has white people regularly enough that it would need to ban them.
 
All shebeens are black only duh... Though I would imagine that constitutionally speaking you can't make any place black/white only anymore
 
Terminology...

Is it a licensed tavern or an unlicensed shebeen?

If it is the former then they cannot deny you entrance on the grounds of your race as they could lose their liquor license. Whether it would be wise to enter some of these taverns is a different issue.

I would not recommend that you force your way into an unlicensed shebeen...
 
techead said:
All shebeens are black only duh... Though I would imagine that constitutionally speaking you can't make any place black/white only anymore
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Why would you say that. I used to regularly go to Mzoli's in Gugulethu and there were often quite a few non-black customers
 
Well the hipster crowd goes out of their way to go against racial expectations so I can imagine quite a few white okes at the more trendy joints.

Anyway...so the consensus seems to be no shebeens with race restrictions. Thanks
 
If you can get black only organisations like Black Lawyer Organisation, Black Management Forrum and others, why shouldn't you get black only shebeens?
 
joelus said:
Why would you say that. I used to regularly go to Mzoli's in Gugulethu and there were often quite a few non-black customers
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I think he means the small informal outfits. Mzoli's is a proper licensed place. It's also not afraid of hosting gay events and such.

And if some such places don't want white customers I don't see why not. Maybe the customers feel more at ease, don't have to speak English and not feel like 'ex-oppressors' are watching them. Not everyone experienced the past in one particular way.
 
Just imagine an afrikaans sokkie place in kraaifontein saying whites only... Imagine the outcry.

Black shebeen only my ass gtfo
 
techead said:
Just imagine an afrikaans sokkie place in kraaifontein saying whites only... Imagine the outcry.

Black shebeen only my ass gtfo
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Maybe not but an unlicensed gambling den or get together among friends and friends of friends to have fun with booze and strippers and what-not may have an informal (or unwritten) whites-only policy.
 
techead said:
Just imagine an afrikaans sokkie place in kraaifontein saying whites only... Imagine the outcry.

Black shebeen only my ass gtfo
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I've been to some places in a few small towns where by not being afrikaaner, you weren't feeling at ease at all and just understand in a few seconds that even being white is not enough and that you better GTFO.

There wasn't any non-afrikaaner in the place.
 
f2wohf said:
I've been to some places in a few small towns where by not being afrikaaner, you weren't feeling at ease at all and just understand in a few seconds that even being white is not enough and that you better GTFO.

There wasn't any non-afrikaaner in the place.
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We are all Africans (Afrikaners). Sipho, Frikkie and Precious.
 
Oh fun, another bigoted ****wit that can't spell the object of their hatred correctly. It's Afrikaner. One a after the k.

As for the OP, who knows? They might exist but I haven't encountered them. I'm much more worried about "licensed" shebeens. That's like a licensed speakeasy, or a licensed money laundering operation, it doesn't make sense.
 
TJ99 said:
Oh fun, another bigoted ****wit that can't spell the object of their hatred correctly. It's Afrikaner. One a after the k.

As for the OP, who knows? They might exist but I haven't encountered them. I'm much more worried about "licensed" shebeens. That's like a licensed speakeasy, or a licensed money laundering operation, it doesn't make sense.
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Bigoted ? I have no hate whatsoever, I actually absolutely don't care about this and find completely ridiculous this permanent white/blacks antagonism, and it comes from both sides.

I just make a remark that it's not only black shebeens and I think the percentage of racist black shebeens owners is roughly the same than white racist bar owners.

And being a white foreigner, I was just mentioning that I've seen twice white South African bar owners not keen to have non Afrikaners clients even though this client is white, which is maybe less than 1% of the bars I've been to. As for sheebens, I can't say, I haven't been to any.
 
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