Blended & local only ADSL

Well if it's that hard to split local and international bandwidth at ISP level, then why don't they provide two separate accounts. One local only and the other blended, the user can then choose whether or not they will do the splitting. That way one will not have to buy extra bandwidth for that purpose.
 
feo said:
While we continue to have threads about "local" vs "blended", the rest of the world goes on with just one account that gives you full access to the INTERNET...none of this crap differentiation between websites hosted in your country of residence and outside. :sick:
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rurapente said:
exactly! all we're doing here is asking for a process to be designed to help feed the money-making machine that is fooling us into believing we should differentiate between packets within and outside of our borders. The Internet is here to do away with borders, not make them even higher.

"Do you have a local download server?" should only be asked because of speed. If someone is asking that question because its cheaper, then we have failed to provide what the internet set out to become and are going to compound an already greedy industry.
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Thank you. We must rid ourselves from this Local vs. International mindset. We must fight it!! Things will never change for the better if we continue this way.
 
I split my local/int on ubuntu - I make a ppp connection to my local saix account, have a cron job that pulls the latest updated local ip ranges from the net daily, an if-up.d script that creates the connections and iptables handles the split routing for me. Easy as pie.
 
n00berizer said:
I split my local/int on ubuntu - I make a ppp connection to my local saix account, have a cron job that pulls the latest updated local ip ranges from the net daily, an if-up.d script that creates the connections and iptables handles the split routing for me. Easy as pie.
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The downside of doing that is that other devices on your local network don't get the benefit of splitting the traffic.

Doing it on the router allows any device on the network to benefit automatically, with no further effort required.
 
redarrow said:
There's no reason you cannot setup a Linux box to act as the router for all traffic on your local network..
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True.

However, the majority of folks have an ADSL modem with an ethernet switch and wireless all built in to one. To do the PPPoE from a linux box attached to this modem, you need to set the modem into bridging mode. Once you do that, it means that you generally need to set up a DHCP server on your linux box to allocate addresses to the other devices, as well as setting up iptables and ip forwarding on the linux box.

It also means that the other devices on the network cannot access the internet if your linux box if off for any reason. It also means that your electricity consumption is that much greater because you tend to leave your linux box on more than you may have otherwise.

etc, etc, etc

Doing it in the router itself is just a much cleaner solution, IMO. IF it is possible, of course.
 
RoganDawes said:
Doing it in the router itself is just a much cleaner solution, IMO. IF it is possible, of course.
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I agree completely with that.. ;)

I find my Mikrotik system to be quite ideal .. it does require having two routers powered up however as the Mikrotik routerboard itself does not have a builtin adsl router..
 
redarrow said:
I agree completely with that.. ;)

I find my Mikrotik system to be quite ideal .. it does require having two routers powered up however as the Mikrotik routerboard itself does not have a builtin adsl router..
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Yup. Unfortunately, most of the inexpensive ADSL modem/wireless/routers are based on AR7, which is not well supported in Linux/OpenWRT, even though the actual firmware is Linux-based. Bloody binary modules :-(

It might be interesting to take a look at the newer Netgear DG834G v4 and v5 hardware, to see if there is any improvement in that area, since they are apparently NOT AR7 based anymore. V1,v2,v3 were, though.
 
Technically speaking you cannot "split" the internet. What you are doing is discriminating data between Internet (international) and Nationet (national/local). If you use internet you pay more than what you do if you use nationet.

Its kinda like the old South Africa with apartheid and international sanctions.
 
yes well some ppl are more interested in contributing to that than stopping it :)

They should put a swastika on those routers that split traffic.
 
Aah... router apartheid - as long as the maths looks good and I get the most of what I'm paying for...
 
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