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spiff said:
100% childish comments - are you like 3yrs old or what?

cause you can't farking read -
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The nosey busy body with kleinmannetjie syndrome calling me childish :laugh:
And you are not the chairman or whatever here. ;) If you dont like my comments, go play in traffic.
 
3WA said:
Depends what the complex's finances are like. The fund has to be something like a year's worth of income, and we didn’t have it so we have to pay extra to build it up. But I know our sumbitch trustees have budgeted for the special levy to continue long after our fund is fully saved.
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As I understand the new regulations, special levies can only be used for emergency repairs that would otherwise result in greater expenses. E.g. there's a really bad storm, roof damage occurs, work needs to be done immediately, that level of damage not foreseen so not in maintenance budget. Things like painting walls etc need to be budgeted for and put into the maintenance schedule. The reserve funds requirement was implemented about 2 years ago and I think there was a 3 year grace period which comes to an end next year, give or take. You can't have an on-going special levy, but at the budget meeting the owners may vote to raise the monthly levy if the budget compiled by the trustees is accepted and extra money to fund that budget is needed.
 
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Marsie27 said:
Tenants don't come into it. BC is owners (who may be represented by their agents), and BC votes for trustees at the AGM.
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What exactly prevents a tenant (or occupier) from raising a dispute with CSOS, or even the trustees, pray tell?
The STSMA confers rights on occupiers that are very similar to BC members, they can even be trustees of the BC.
An occupier that has a material interest in the scheme can approach CSOS for relief. Take a look here.

It's not neccessarily something that I personally agree with, but our good and honourable minister of housing declared it so, and therefore it is.
 
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spiff said:
100% childish comments - are you like 3yrs old or what?

cause you can't farking read -
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Regardless of his comments and manner, he is correct. Unless it causes a danger, you have no recourse. If its on an estate or something sure but not a private BC that is within its bounds. Boundary walls are also shared property, have you considered approaching the other party? I like the suggestion by somehow here around making it a community project, nicest idea and win win all around.
 
RonSwanson said:
What exactly prevents a tenant (or occupier) from raising a dispute with CSOS, or even the trustees, pray tell?
The STSMA confers rights on occupiers that are very similar to BC members, they can even be trustees of the BC.
An occupier that has a material interest in the scheme can approach CSOS for relief. Take a look here.

It's not neccessarily something that I personally agree with, but our good and honourable minister of housing declared it so, and therefore it is.
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They can raise an issue but they have no direct say in the running of the property.
 
Kosmik said:
They can raise an issue but they have no direct say in the running of the property.
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I guess that you meant the running of the scheme? If so, and an occupier becomes a trustee, then I guess that she'd have a whole lot of direct say.
 
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Marsie27 said:
As I understand the new regulations, special levies can only be used for emergency repairs that would otherwise result in greater expenses. E.g. there's a really bad storm, roof damage occurs, work needs to be done immediately, that level of damage not foreseen so not in maintenance budget. Things like painting walls etc need to be budgeted for and put into the maintenance schedule. The reserve funds requirement was implemented about 2 years ago and I think there was a 3 year grace period which comes to an end next year, give or take. You can't have an on-going special levy, but at the budget meeting the owners may vote to raise the monthly levy if the budget compiled by the trustees is accepted and extra money to fund that budget is needed.
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Special levies can literally be raised for anything. Only two conditions apply: it must be something that is deemed necessary and it cannot be used to pay for an expense that was in the approved budget.
 
3WA said:
Depends what the complex's finances are like. The fund has to be something like a year's worth of income, and we didn’t have it so we have to pay extra to build it up. But I know our sumbitch trustees have budgeted for the special levy to continue long after our fund is fully saved.
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That's not quite correct, and although it is possible that it can happen in a poorly managed scheme, the special levy must be for something explicit, with an explicit cost. It cannot be a floating figure, and the funds so gathered must be attributed towards this cost.

There are different liabilities for special levies (or special contributions) compared to normal levies. With normal levies, if an owner in the scheme disposes of a section, then the new owner will be liable for the levies from date of transfer. With special levies, the owner is liable for the full amount on the date that the trustees made the resolution, and if the owner disposes of the unit during the course of the financial year, the new owner is not liable, even if the amount is paid monthly. If it were a floating figure then this would not be possible.
 
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spiff said:
tough shyt - you live in a complex - you kak n' betaal
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Wrong attitude. It's up to the residents whether they want to pay for something to be done or not. This is YOUR problem. What you are essentially saying is that someone should paint their house because you have a problem with how it looks to you but for them it's ok.

spiff said:
100% childish comments - are you like 3yrs old or what?

cause you can't farking read -
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No you're the one being childish here demanding that something be done to satisfy you. You opened the thread and got the answers. You can't tell people to be quiet because you don't like the answers they give you.
 
Kosmik said:
Regardless of his comments and manner, he is correct. Unless it causes a danger, you have no recourse. If its on an estate or something sure but not a private BC that is within its bounds. Boundary walls are also shared property, have you considered approaching the other party? I like the suggestion by somehow here around making it a community project, nicest idea and win win all around.
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it faces a public road. it's 100% their problem.
 
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