MrMikey
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That's evidently because you don't read your own posts.
Hey - what do you say we up the level of this debate and you can explain WHY you thought it was so idiotic?
Why dont you expound of your first little comment??
Where to start
First off why would they assume that you had a gun just because TMoose had a gun?
Criminals in this country read the paper and can see that the number of gun owners have dwindled therefore they are more liable to assume that their victim does not own a gun
Also from the sounds of it if they attacked TMoose there is a chance that they would be dead therefore they would not be able to trouble you
To blame another person for defending themselves is really childish although given some of your past posts, it seems that you would be happier if we all rolled over and played dead, rather than harm a poor misguided criminal
Koos Custodiet
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You watch too many movies. Bad ones, of the Mel Brooks variety, by the looks of it.
News Flash: Criminals lie
OP: PM me if you want help (getting a gun, that is
Playing dead works for me. Being dead doesn't.
And you're being pedantic. Surely you can understand that if people are turning to guns to "protect" themselves, criminals will need to arm themselves more heavily in order to protect themselves, which in turn means yahoos feel the need to arm themselves even more heavily, and so the cycle repeats.
It's called an arms race.
But I must admit, I do like the idea of the high-speed pepperball launcher. Then after you've downed the criminal you can spend some time kicking him in the nads and he'll actually feel it.
rebel998
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Geez you guys are violent!!
Your wife would be real proud of you for doing that while they raped her - you're the MAN.
I'm sure you will have a different view when you have just watched them rape your wife and daughters and now they are torturing you with an iron or boiling water for the fun of it.
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Fudzy
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I'm sure you will have a different view when you have just watched them rape your wife and daughters and now they are torturing you with an iron or boiling water for the fun of it.
Well, the highly possible alternative of being shot in the head by your own gun moments before that sounds a lot peachier. What about the number of legal gun owners in this country who have a habit of offing themselves and their loved ones in murder suicides? Sadly all the gun related violence involving people I've known have included both the examples I've highlighted above.
I'm not saying guns should be outlawed or banned, I just think someone who is making the decision to own one really has to consider all the factors (as a lot of members here have) involved with the responsibility of owning a firearm.
If you are going to own a gun, you HAVE to have it on you at all times, you HAVE to be trained to use it in all circumstances, you HAVE to be mentally stable enough to own it.
I'm sure you will have a different view when you have just watched them rape your wife and daughters and now they are torturing you with an iron or boiling water for the fun of it.
Better dead than raped -- is that what you're trying to say, Brandon?
gregmcc
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Get gun
Keep it under pillow
Neighbors child visits, finds gun, shoots herself by mistake
You sit in jail
No, better to defend your family instead of being killed.
Without a weapon you are putting your family's well being entirely at the mercy of a bunch of thugs.
killadoob
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Defending your family can mean more than running around like bruce willis
The situation obviously differs but surely if you are looking at getting a gun you have some sort of setup so robbers cannot easily get to your family.
We have a very strong gate that leads into the rooms which is locked when we go to sleep.
So people should rather look into better security options than thinking about bruce willis movies.
If i had to hear someone in my house i would leave them be and let them take what they like. I will not go outside our safe zone with gun.
All to their own i guess, if you prefer violence over safety and would rather have a gun than make sure you are sleeping in a safe area then by all means but you will feel kuk when your family gets murdered because you wanted to be bruce willis. My sister and her fiancee went away to some bush place and 2 okes got into their room, they both just acted like they did not hear anything and nothing happened to them, if my sisters boyfriend had jumped out of bed bruce willis style they may both be dead. So there is a time and place i guess for bruce willis moves.
The situation obviously differs but surely if you are looking at getting a gun you have some sort of setup so robbers cannot easily get to your family.
We have a very strong gate that leads into the rooms which is locked when we go to sleep.
So people should rather look into better security options than thinking about bruce willis movies.
If i had to hear someone in my house i would leave them be and let them take what they like. I will not go outside our safe zone with gun.
All to their own i guess, if you prefer violence over safety and would rather have a gun than make sure you are sleeping in a safe area then by all means but you will feel kuk when your family gets murdered because you wanted to be bruce willis. My sister and her fiancee went away to some bush place and 2 okes got into their room, they both just acted like they did not hear anything and nothing happened to them, if my sisters boyfriend had jumped out of bed bruce willis style they may both be dead. So there is a time and place i guess for bruce willis moves.
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Fudzy
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Whatever happened to Lemoetif? He'd usually be all over threads like these.
the problem is that criminals tend to attack when you are most vulnerable. Like when you arrive home from work or while you're making supper.
At least if you're armed you have a chance to defend yourself. And besides, only ever carry a gun if you're prepared to use it. If you fumble around with the gun, its going to get taken off you.
Now who is been pedant, you really are a gun hater aren’t you
Let see no one is forcing the criminals to rob, rape and murder innocent people; no one is forcing them to arm themselves.
So why should we not allow properly trained people to arm themselves in order to defend their family.
Criminals are the problem not legitimate gun owners but you seem to have that turned around.
Have you ever been a victim of a crime?
Yup. But I'm sure it won't be enough for you. No "true" crime victim would ever be against firearms, is that it?
Train yourself up if you must, Rambo, but it's not going to solve the crime problem. My personal opinion is that it will actually exacerbate the crime problem, and my reasons for saying that should be well-known by now.
And whatever you may say, you know as well as everyone else that holding a gun is more likely to get you killed than not holding one.
Koos Custodiet
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Guns are the question. The answer is yes!
OK, to try to comment on a whole lot of you in one post. There are some of you who feel that you, yourself, should not be trusted with a gun. You'll keep it under a pillow, get yourself shot, etc, etc.
I have no problem with that. Don't get a gun.
On the other hand, don't go and assume all gun owners are like you are. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible. The fact that irresponsible gun use makes the news means that it's newsworthy because it's a rare event. We have 50 murders a day. The majority doesn't even make the local papers. Yet if some fellow shoots a boy in his garden, it makes the headlines country-wide. Yes, it's a tragedy. But my point is that it's a rare tragedy.
People kill themselves all the time. It's irrational. It's sad. And it happens whether they have access to guns or not.
Removing guns from society will decrease gun violence and gun suicides. It won't decrease total violence or total suicides. Unless you believe that guns are somehow evil and emit mind-control rays that force people to do irrational things.
But then, there are some of you who do believe that. I bake a mean potato wrapped in tin foil. Others make the tin foil into hats. I guess that's just the way the world is.
And Leitmotif changed jobs, now lives behind a firewall, as far as I know
Edit: Oh, and grayston. That "more likely to get you killed" meme comes from Kellerman. He admitted to, let's say, fudging the figures a lot. Bottom line, only people with agendas still quote it.
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It is up to each individual person to decide if they wish to have a firearm or not.
You are a very petty person, you know that. I dont consider my self a RAMBO, I am an itelligent person who has been trained to use a firearm and have been in plenty of situations where use of a firearm was warrented, but I did not use it as my common sense determined that it was neccessary.
PS I have met a few real RAMBO types and steer clear of them.
Of course having a firearm will not solve the crime problem but it will give you a chance to defend yourself from the violent rutheless criminal scum who infest our fair country
As for your last little statement, where is your proof