Bullets fly in N3 VIP incident

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Durban - A Durban motorist who was “sandwiched” between an official’s car and one apparently driven by members of the VIP Protection Unit feared for his life when at least five shots were fired at him on the N3 near the Mariannhill Toll Plaza on Tuesday afternoon.

The 24-year-old man, Wynand, who did not want his full name made public, said he was shot at, allegedly by a VIP protection unit officer escorting a KwaZulu-Natal mayor.

On Tuesday night, provincial transport spokesman Kwanele Ncalane said although he had not been told officially about the incident it was a “very serious” allegation.

“We will be investigating (the incident) and make sure that the law takes its course. The MEC will comment further as soon as we have more details.”

Wynand said he was travelling from Pietermaritzburg towards the Mariannhill tollgate when a white Prado and Corolla passed him. After going through the toll plaza, he ended up behind the Prado. Then he noticed the driver of the Corolla behind him, flashing its lights.

“There were vehicles next to me, so I could not move over. I was doing 135km/h, so I was already over the speed limit. As we came around a corner, he (the driver of the Corolla) pushed his way through and drove next to me, then pushed me off the road,” Wynand said.

He braked and then drove alongside the Corolla, trying to ask the passenger what was going on by signalling in a questioning manner.

“The passenger in the Corolla rolled down his window, pointed his gun and fired two shots,” said Wynand, who braked hard.

Wynand stopped at the side of the freeway and so did the driver of the Corolla. The passenger then got out of his car and ran towards him, pointing the gun. Fearing for his life, the young motorist started reversing, trying to get away.

“Then I heard all the shots go off,” said Wynand, as the passenger shot at him at least three times. Desperate to escape he reversed over the centre island and drove off in the opposite direction.

“The man climbed back in the vehicle and they carried on driving,” said Wynand.

He eventually got back on to the southbound lane, wanting to drive to his office to report the incident. He later saw that the same Corolla had been pulled over by metro police officers near the “Spaghetti Junction”.

He stopped and asked the metro officer and the men from the Corolla what was going on.

“I asked the driver who he was, and he said he was from VIP protection. He told me ‘the mayor’ was in the Prado and I was a threat. He said they have a ‘shoot to kill policy’ if the mayor’s life is in danger.”

The driver refused to produce any identification and told Wynand that how they operated was none of his concern.

“I did not make way for him. That is the only reason they did this,” said Wynand.

He said there was a blue light in the car, but it was not flashing.

He opened a case at the Pinetown police station on Tuesday night.

The Corolla had a registration that started with a G, meaning it was a government car.

Metro police spokesman Eugene Msomi was unable to comment as he had not yet been made aware of the incident.

Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs spokesman Lennox Mabaso said: “Verification of the vehicle will have to be established through the Department of Transport. At this stage we will caution against jumping to conclusions and pointing fingers at mayors, as the majority of mayors in KZN use vehicles that are registered in their respective areas.”

IFP spokesman Petros Sithole said: “The police need to be trained properly because they don’t protect our civilians.

“This is a direct result of (former national police chief Bheki Cele’s ‘Police must shoot to kill, worry later’ philosophy.”

“If there was such a major emergency, why were they not visible? Why were their lights not on?”

DA spokeswoman on police matters Dianne Kohler Barnard said: “This is outrageous behaviour. Especially in KZN, time after time, you hear cases of the ‘blue lights’ attacking civilians. It is a banana republic, they are out of control and they should not be in those positions.”

Last month, shots were fired at Port Shepstone restaurateur Leanne Douglas’s car by pursuing police after she had failed to stop for an unmarked police vehicle. Douglas, 45, died after at least five police bullets struck her blue Chevrolet Spark, causing it to flip on the N2 near Umkomaas.

In 2008, Anuvasen Moodley allegedly braked in front of a blue-light brigade transporting KZN MEC for Social Development, Meshack Radebe. This caused a VIP protection unit member, Hlanganani Nxumalo, to fire two warning shots in the air, causing Moodley to lose control of his car, leading to a collision with a bakkie.

A second incident in 2011 saw the blue light police deliberately cause an accident with another vehicle. Jim Wichstrom had been frightened by the blue-light police coming too close to his car and turning on their sirens. He responded by changing lanes and showed them his middle finger.

On seeing this, the police deliberately slowed down and swerved in front of him, causing a collision.

Then they got out the car and started pushing and shoving Wichstrom.

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http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/bullets-fly-in-n3-vip-incident-1.1589259
 
Shoot to kill but no a single bullet hole to prove this? ****ty shooting or lying attention seeking civilian?
 
GhostSixFour said:
Shoot to kill but no a single bullet hole to prove this? ****ty shooting or lying attention seeking civilian?
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How are you coming to that conclusion?
TBH I only scanned the article, but I don't see any reference that his car wasn't hit
 
eehellfire said:
How are you coming to that conclusion?
TBH I only scanned the article, but I don't see any reference that his car wasn't hit
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They also don't mention the multiple bullet holes or tight groupings on windshield or anything of that sort. Given that sensation sells, the fact that it isn't mentioned draws me to that conclusion.
 
GhostSixFour said:
Shoot to kill but no a single bullet hole to prove this? ****ty shooting or lying attention seeking civilian?
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Let's consider which is more likely: a politician's security detail going apes**t on an innocent person (which has happened before), or a motorist making false accusations about a traumatic event?
 
If the VIP protection unit just played some Moody Blues on that Tuesday Afternoon this kind of thing wouldn't happen
 
If someone starts shooting at me I recon it'll be quicker to drive over them than try reverse and GTFO.
 
GhostSixFour said:
They also don't mention the multiple bullet holes or tight groupings on windshield or anything of that sort. Given that sensation sells, the fact that it isn't mentioned draws me to that conclusion.
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Trust me... this is KZN, in terms of Occam's Razor, the more likely story is that the VIP knobheads shot at the motorist.
They think they are a law unto themselves, and they need to be brought into line. This is not the first time shyte like this has happened, and it won't be the last.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Trust me... this is KZN, in terms of Occam's Razor, the more likely story is that the VIP knobheads shot at the motorist.
They think they are a law unto themselves, and they need to be brought into line. This is not the first time shyte like this has happened, and it won't be the last.
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I wonder what would happen if a VIP knobhead had shot at a dude that carries for a living.... like the KZN dude with the Prius.
 
The_Assimilator said:
Let's consider which is more likely: a politician's security detail going apes**t on an innocent person (which has happened before), or a motorist making false accusations about a traumatic event?
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ToxicBunny said:
Trust me... this is KZN, in terms of Occam's Razor, the more likely story is that the VIP knobheads shot at the motorist.
They think they are a law unto themselves, and they need to be brought into line. This is not the first time shyte like this has happened, and it won't be the last.
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I believe the guy to be honest, but surely some mention must be made of bullet holes, or the VIP guard can't shoot for ****.
 
GhostSixFour said:
I believe the guy to be honest, but surely some mention must be made of bullet holes, or the VIP guard can't shoot for ****.
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I would go with the VIP guard can't shoot for shyte..... Given the way they drive, I doubt any of them have any decent firearm training. I'm not a brilliant shot, but I would guess I could probably hit a target more often than they could.
 
froot said:
I wonder what would happen if a VIP knobhead had shot at a dude that carries for a living.... like the KZN dude with the Prius.
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It will happen sooner or later, and the VIP guys will very probably end up with the short end of the stick.
 
So they're authorised to shoot to kill if they feel that the mayor's life is in danger? Who the **** gives them the right to put one life above another? So does that mean that any civilian can shoot to kill if they feel that their life is in danger? I think not.
 
Ive had a blue light brigade car point a gun at me. It was during the opening ceremony of the world cup in JHB. Had my mom dad and sister in the car with me and we were enroute to the stadium. There was an accident on the highway so all the cars had to use the yellow lane to get around the accident. As my turn came up a blue light car (Mercedes CLS350) came speeding up the yellow lane. I hadnt noticed him because there were no sirens and because of all the traffic. Suddenly i see him behind me not slowing down so I quickly moved back into my lane to avoid an accident (almost knocking the car in the lane next to me). Next thing his window is down and hes pointing a gun at us. My dad just told me to ignore him and let him move on. Another guy on the road in a delivery van saw the whole thing happen and said he had his registration number. He eventually chased the guy down himself. Im not sure what happened as we never reported it or followed up.

Worst of all the blue light car wasnt escorting anyone or had any passengers in his car. These guys are just thugs looking for an opportunity to kill someone.
 
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