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Hosehead

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you know most of the upmarket steak house restaurants (like The Butcher Shop & Grill and Bucher Block) get their meat from a halaal supplier

so what it doesn't make it any better. It just means that the supplier goes for more expensive meat from animals coming from the better farms and passes those costs on.
 

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Most upmarket steakhouses do NOT get their meat from halaal suppliers. Compared to regular meat halaal steak is dry and lacks flavour because the cows are bled bone dry. Of course it can be tasty but it loses potential because it has almost no blood in it.
 

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Most upmarket steakhouses do NOT get their meat from halaal suppliers. Compared to regular meat halaal steak is dry and lacks flavour because the cows are bled bone dry. Of course it can be tasty but it loses potential because it has almost no blood in it.

That's the whole issue. Blood.

Ask for a rare steak at a steakhouse that is haalal and you will get a bit of grey anemic meat pooling oil
" " " " " " " that is NOT haalal and you'll see the blood mixing with the juices.
 

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Most upmarket steakhouses do NOT get their meat from halaal suppliers. Compared to regular meat halaal steak is dry and lacks flavour because the cows are bled bone dry. Of course it can be tasty but it loses potential because it has almost no blood in it.

Again, you're wrong, it's not bled dry ffs.
Where do you get this stuff from?
Kosher is dry, halaal is not dry!!!

And yes most high end restaurants source meat from AAA grade suppliers and 4 of the top 5 are halaal.

All ostrich meat in SA is halaal.
Karan beef is all halaal.

You either misinformed or ignorant.
 

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That's the whole issue. Blood.

Ask for a rare steak at a steakhouse that is haalal and you will get a bit of grey anemic meat pooling oil
" " " " " " " that is NOT haalal and you'll see the blood mixing with the juices.

That is not blood. All blood is drained during slaughter whether it's halal or not. The red juice you see is just water mixing with myoglobin.
 

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That's the whole issue. Blood.

Ask for a rare steak at a steakhouse that is haalal and you will get a bit of grey anemic meat pooling oil
" " " " " " " that is NOT haalal and you'll see the blood mixing with the juices.

Neigh my bru...
Nope rare halaal steak has blood in it as with any other steak.
You just got a stale freezer burnt steak :)
 

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so what it doesn't make it any better. It just means that the supplier goes for more expensive meat from animals coming from the better farms and passes those costs on.
I was replying to zewps comment on halaal being B grade Just pointing out Halaal meat is not B grade meat only you get AAA Grade as well, just like like non Halaal meat its available in all grades great and crap.

Most upmarket steakhouses do NOT get their meat from halaal suppliers. Compared to regular meat halaal steak is dry and lacks flavour because the cows are bled bone dry. Of course it can be tasty but it loses potential because it has almost no blood in it.

During the world cup i worked for one of the sponsors, one of my jobs was to book their VIP guests dinners at restaurants and i had to check their grades of meat they use and who supplies them and check out the supplier etc. Majority of the restaurants were not Halaal places none the less IIRC Pretty much all of them got their AAA beef from Karan - which is a Halaal certified supplier. Of course not all but im going for a guesstimate of 70-80% of restaurants get their beef from them
 

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That is not blood. All blood is drained during slaughter whether it's halal or not. The red juice you see is just water mixing with myoglobin.

So for breakfast I have steak, eggs and black pudding. What do you think Black pudding is?
 

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So for breakfast I have steak, eggs and black pudding. What do you think Black pudding is?

What does that have to do with the blood content of meat? Did you squeeze it out of steak and chops to make your black pudding?
 

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What does that have to do with the blood content of meat? Did you squeeze it out of steak and chops to make your black pudding?

Just answer the question instead of dancing around the room.
 

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Just answer the question instead of dancing around the room.

Black pudding is MADE of blood (either dried powered blood or the fresh blood drained during slaughter), so once again, what does that have to do with the blood content in meat?
 
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So for breakfast I have steak, eggs and black pudding. What do you think Black pudding is?

Black pudding is made with added blood. The blood content of meat, halaal or not is absolutely minuscule. It would turn rancid otherwise...
 

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Black pudding is made with added blood. The blood content of meat, halaal or not is absolutely minuscule. It would turn rancid otherwise...

I think you just shattered their belief that the meat they eat is filled blood

From the FOA (Food and agricultural organisation of the UN)
Bleeding

Bleeding is the part of the slaughter process where the main blood vessels of the neck are severed in order to allow blood to drain from the carcass, resulting in the death of the animal from cerebral anoxia. The bleeding knife should continuously be sharpened. A blunt knife will prolong the incision and the cut ends of the blood vessels will be damaged. This may cause premature clotting and blockage of the vessels, delaying bleeding out and prolonging the onset of unconsciousness and insensitivity. Incisions should be swift and precise. In poultry, sheep, goats and ostriches, the throat is cut behind the jaw



The standard method for the bleeding of cattle is to open the skin at the neck between brisket and jaw through a 30-cm longitudinal cut. Then, for hygienic reasons, a clean knife should be used and inserted at a 45° angle in order to sever the jugular and carotid vessels.

In pigs, a longitudinal bleeding stick is made into the chest to sever the deep vessels

For all cuts, the jugular and carotid vessels should be completely severed. If all vessels are not cut, bleeding may be incomplete, causing excessive retention of blood in the tissue, which can result in early spoilage of meat.

A minimum of delay is required between stunning and bleeding for two reasons:

a. A prolonged delay in bleeding may result in a level of consciousness being regained particularly where animals have been stunned electrically. For example, poultry stunned electrically may regain consciousness within 1-3 minutes. Generally, bleeding of poultry should commence within 15 seconds of stunning. For other livestock, the interval between stunning and sticking/bleeding should also be kept very short. Periods of less than one minute are desirable

b. Delayed bleeding will result in an increase of blood pressure, and blood vessels will rupture, causing muscle haemorrhage. This extra blood in the tissue will cause the meat to decompose more quickly, resulting in waste of meat.
 
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Did you know that the red juice you find seeping out of rare/undercooked red meat isn’t actually blood, it’s in fact Myoglobin.?I was told earlier.

I stand corrected and enlightened as this applies to ALL slaughtered meat commercially available and Blood is collected seperately for pudding mix.

It doesn't change my opinion that there is a difference between haalal and non haalal meat. I guess this boils down here to suppliers on average offering the cheapest cuts they can find.
 

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Anyway, back on topic. Cav Square queue was 30 to 40 people strong today around 17:15. I would have gone to buy some Steers then if I was hungry but alas it wasnt time to eat yet :(. When the BK queues one day reduce to a reasonable length then I'll have a BK burger!
 

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Anyway, back on topic. Cav Square queue was 30 to 40 people strong today around 17:15. I would have gone to buy some Steers then if I was hungry but alas it wasnt time to eat yet :(. When the BK queues one day reduce to a reasonable length then I'll have a BK burger!

I suggest you go like between 2 to 4
 
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