Byd:Sign TVs

Ancalagon said:
You mean the difference is only visible under ideal conditions? Wow, thats great. Pay R4000 extra for something you can only see in the dark at default settings using material you know well. Great. Definitely worth it.
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No you misunderstood, in the brightly lit stores and on the configuration they have all LCD's look equal, it's only when you get home you start to notice the problems. I had a Sinotec 42" for almost 3 years, there were compression artefacts on the SD signal, the contrast ratios were all over the place and it just could never get the quality of the equivalent Sony at the time.
But yeah I cannot compare on this particular brand
 
Ancalagon said:
Go into a Hifi Corp where they have Sonys, LGs and Samsungs on display next to byDsigns and other budget brands. Other than the slimness of the Samsungs, I dont notice a massive difference. At least not a big enough difference to warranty nearly double the cost.
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First mistake: Judging TVs under bright shop lights. If those TVs were set up correctly as per how yours would be setup in your home, Hifi Corp would sell a lot fewer TVs. They're all pumped up to Torch Mode, 100% brightness and contrast and backlight etc. in order to fool people under bright shop lighting.

Go to a professional AV store with dark room.

Oh wait, they don't stock junk. :p
 
No but I have sunlight streaming into my lounge. Sunlight is way brighter than any fluorescent lighting, and my set still looks fine.

The only weakness that the bydsign TVs have is that they cant really playback much content from a USB flash stick. But I have my DVD player for that. Other than that, I really do not see a reason to pay extra. Maybe if I had a blu ray drive I would feel differently, but for my purposes, it looks perfectly fine.
 
You have sunlight at night :eek:

I don't recall the last time I watched TV at home during the day...
 
Point is, whether I watch TV at night or during the day, it looks fine, and from what I see in TV shops (Game etc), its not likely that I could notice a big enough difference to warrant spending double the money.

I mean, my lounge is not a darkroom - ie not ideal conditions either. If I need a darkroom to notice the difference, then whats the point?
 
Ancalagon said:
Point is, whether I watch TV at night or during the day, it looks fine, and from what I see in TV shops (Game etc), its not likely that I could notice a big enough difference to warrant spending double the money.

I mean, my lounge is not a darkroom - ie not ideal conditions either. If I need a darkroom to notice the difference, then whats the point?
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Then it's perfect for you, out of interest what options do you have for adjusting sound and picture?
 
Lupus said:
Then it's perfect for you, out of interest what options do you have for adjusting sound and picture?
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To be quite honest I havent bothered adjusting the picture. I might look into that tonight. Looks fine to me.

I dont use the TV's sound - I use a Samsung DVD player/5.1 surround sound combo. As far as I remember the TV lacks optical audio out, so I'm forced to use RCA stereo out. Not ideal but DSTV is in stereo anyway (I dont have HD).

If you wanted to watch blu ray movies, a better sound solution would be needed. HDMI pass through does work - that is, my XBox is connected via HDMI and outputs audio via HDMI to the TV which outputs it via RCA.

Anyway, my point is, for most people, the "cheap" TVs work just fine. More modern "cheap" TVs probably have better audio solutions included. Most people would not notice, and if they noticed they wouldnt care. I think a lot of people get caught up in the brand.
 
Ancalagon said:
Point is, whether I watch TV at night or during the day, it looks fine, and from what I see in TV shops (Game etc), its not likely that I could notice a big enough difference to warrant spending double the money.

I mean, my lounge is not a darkroom - ie not ideal conditions either. If I need a darkroom to notice the difference, then whats the point?
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Double the money? :confused: What size are we talking here?

No you don't need a dark room to notice the difference.
 
Thanks all - 40" ByDesign is R3999, but so is the AIM at PnP
 
PostmanPot said:
First mistake: Judging TVs under bright shop lights. If those TVs were set up correctly as per how yours would be setup in your home, Hifi Corp would sell a lot fewer TVs. They're all pumped up to Torch Mode, 100% brightness and contrast and backlight etc. in order to fool people under bright shop lighting.

Go to a professional AV store with dark room.

Oh wait, they don't stock junk. :p
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Sorry bud, but you're talking ****. I worked at HiFi Corp, I also worked at Makro. Those TVs come out of the box and on to the display. Most the staff couldn't care less about picture settings. What comes out the factory is what is what you see on the shelf.
 
PostmanPot said:
Eh? Have you not seen store/demo modes on TVs? :confused:
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Yes. And I promise you most stores have never heard of it. Maybe overseas. But all the stores I have worked in just unpacked and put the set on the shelf.
A true story, we once got a batch of sets where the brightness control didn't even work, it could be set to 0 or 100, the picture was the same. I reported this to a manager who told me to mind my own business.
I don't thing these retailers care, and unlike you and me most the consumers don't seem to care either :(
 
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Toilet_Duck said:
Yes. And I promise you most stores have never heard of it. Maybe overseas. But all the stores I have worked in just unpacked and put the set on the shelf.
A true story, we once got a batch of sets where the brightness control didn't even work, it could be set to 0 or 100, the picture was the same. I reported this to a manager who told me to mind my own business.
I don't thing these retailers care, and unlike you and me most the consumers don't seem to care either :(
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My experience is the opposite, and most others that know their stuff on these forums so it's most definitely not talking ****. I mean even Samsung TVs these days give you two options at first turn on, whether normal or store mode AKA torch mode. Perhaps you guys didn't know how to sell TVs well. ;) Jokes!
 
PostmanPot said:
My experience is the opposite, and most others that know their stuff on these forums so it's most definitely not talking ****. I mean even Samsung TVs these days give you two options at first turn on, whether normal or store mode AKA torch mode. Perhaps you guys didn't know how to sell TVs well. ;) Jokes!
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Oh well, just my experience. Most the times TVs were turned on for the first time the salesman would just hit OK until he got a picture. They would even use **** RCA leads, they didn't care.
 
2-3 years ago I bought a Sony 40" Bravia 2. Today still I get people that tell me how they are surprised at how good and clear TV shows look on it. I don't hear or see people say that about the same 40" Sinotech, in fact most just give it a look and move on without saying anything.

The point is, people think most things are normal, until they see something that really does look better. I don't know, I think its still the same, but hey maybe these other brands just became that much better that they actually now look as good as Sony Samsumg ect? Color me surprised at least.
 
The Sinotecs have actually gotten worse since then, I still think my favourite line for the cheap tvs are it has a Samsung panel, really compared to my actual Samsung it looks crap. Also Toilet Duck most tv's out the box are on some sort of demo/store mode.

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