Camps, What If ??

Nanfeishen

Nanfeishen

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After reading about the new "crowd control" device in this thread
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=64668
combined with the following , makes one wonder.
Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Editor's Note: A little-known $385 million contract for Halliburton subsidiary KBR to build detention facilities for "an emergency influx of immigrants" is another step down the Bush administration's road toward martial law, the writer says
Now where have we seen the name Haliburton before? :D
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=eed74d9d44c30493706fe03f4c9b3a77

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There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list. The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

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Bush's Mysterious 'New Programs'
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/47/17936
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Are Concentration Camps Coming to U.S.?
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2816
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http://digg.com/politics/US_Detention_Camps_Built_by_Halliburton
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

Call it a conspiracy theory, call it paranoid, but it is still troubling either way.
 
Why is this troubling to you? Do you have relatives there or something?
 
bwana said:
Why is this troubling to you? Do you have relatives there or something?
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My interest is purely speculative, as denoted by the "what if" in the post, but i am intrigued by the wording of your question, as it potrays a request for information that borders on officialdom. It could almost be called interogative.
It doesnt trouble me in the least, but i see it as a possiblity of the future, one of many possibilities.
Sometimes a picture becomes clearer with time, pieces fall into place, and some may fit, some may seem to fit.
It may be a symbol of the fear of loss of control, although what would bring about that loss of control, i couldnt even speculate upon.
At some point, on a global scale, a critical mass will be achieved by which the average person, will have had enough of being told, ordered, governed and controlled by ruling parties.
It is not a prediction, but simple logic, giving the state of things, and the way knowledge has become so freely available.
Simply put, more and more people are beginning to see the truth behind the stories being fed to them, and are questioning whether the leaders, rulers and governments, actually have the peoples best interests at heart, or are they simply self serving.
 
Nanfeishen said:
My interest is purely speculative, as denoted by the "what if" in the post, but i am intrigued by the wording of your question, as it potrays a request for information that borders on officialdom. It could almost be called interogative.
It doesnt trouble me in the least, but i see it as a possiblity of the future, one of many possibilities.
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Someone asks why you are troubled - and yes, despite your protestations you said you found it troubling - and all of a sudden it borders on officialdom? How?

Anyhow - forgive me if I scoff at the anarchical diatribe - it isnt going to happen anytime soon. ;)
 
bwana said:
Someone asks why you are troubled - and yes, despite your protestations you said you found it troubling - and all of a sudden it borders on officialdom? How?

Anyhow - forgive me if I scoff at the anarchical diatribe - it isnt going to happen anytime soon. ;)
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The underlining of the word you, indicated my personal concern, the wording "or something" denoted a possible third entity other than personal connection. We are all aware of the paranoia surrounding those concerns from a security perspective, so as i stated it came across as interogative, IMHO.:D Then again maybe i read to much into nuancing of words.
Personally i grew up in a police state , and am aware of the lengths a state may go to to achieve its aims, and it is a concern , when the pillar of what is regarded as freedom to the rest of the world, shows signs of becoming something that is the very opposite of freedom, - oppression.
I think it would be a concern to any intelligent freedom loving individual.
As i also said , at some point, a critical mass will be achieved/reached, i am not prophecising , simply making an observation, about a logical course of human development.
 
Those pesky white middle aged Christian men are at again :eek:

They are just relentles aren't they :rolleyes:
 
I saw a video about 'Concentration Camps' in the US around the time Bill Clinton started his first term. They are there, well the building that people have photographed etc. But noone know for sure, or is telling what their real purpose is for.
 
bwana said:
Someone asks why you are troubled - and yes, despite your protestations you said you found it troubling - and all of a sudden it borders on officialdom? How?

Anyhow - forgive me if I scoff at the anarchical diatribe - it isnt going to happen anytime soon. ;)
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As alanf would tell you: that's what they said about the extermination of the jews.

Ja, fully ordered camps ready to go: guards in attendance. But no, it's not going to happen anytime soon?! :confused:

(and bwana weren't you the forumite that wrote the book for the FBI or was that another?)
 
kilo39 said:
As alanf would tell you: that's what they said about the extermination of the jews.

Ja, fully ordered camps ready to go: guards in attendance. But no, it's not going to happen anytime soon?! :confused:

(and bwana weren't you the forumite that wrote the book for the FBI or was that another?)
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Because Obama is going to win the next election right ;)


:D
 
If the camps exist, it would probably mean that the US is planning on "cleaning house". So much for being the country that prides themselves on how free they are.
 
Nod said:
If the camps exist, it would probably mean that the US is planning on "cleaning house". So much for being the country that prides themselves on how free they are.
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So you're drawing a massive conclusion like that on a thumb-suck? Kudos :rolleyes:
 
bwana said:
So you're drawing a massive conclusion like that on a thumb-suck? Kudos :rolleyes:
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Some thumbsuck.

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list. The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.
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Nod said:
If the camps exist, it would probably mean that the US is planning on "cleaning house". So much for being the country that prides themselves on how free they are.
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Based on that sort of logic, if they wanted to "clean house" why not just kill all those they would've imprisoned? Cheaper and easier.
 
Syndyre said:
Based on that sort of logic, if they wanted to "clean house" why not just kill all those they would've imprisoned? Cheaper and easier.
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Maybe because they would like some information to substantiate their paranoia? Dead people as a rule don't talk.
 
Maybe the Brits could send some of their criminals over to ease their prison overcrowding problems. :rolleyes:
 
kilo39 said:
Some thumbsuck.
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I'll tell ya what you show me pictures - google earth screen captures will suffice - of say a quarter of that 800 and I wont refer to it as a thumbsuck.

Fair enough?
 
@ bwana: the programs certainly exist whether or not it is as asserted in the first post.

And of course stories concerning watchlists, databases, and people being incorrectly profiled are legion.

Also never to forget america's already burgeoning prisons, in itself a shame to a democracy.

Sometimes the gulf between forumites is extraordinary as alanf will attest. Fact is: law in place in america makes it a de-facto fascist state. :D

Sorry got to laugh 'cause it is so 'out there,' but in fact it's not. And that's how scary (and funny) it is. Then again I always laugh (when under pressure.) :(
 
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