can anybody stop smoking?

I stopped the minute I learned about having cancer (not related to smoking in any possible way).

I don't really have cravings and use Nicorette (I used less than 10 in 50 days) when I'm at braais or in a smoker environment.

The challenge will be to not start again once in remission I guess. I'll probably go to vaping if it's too hard.
 
f2wohf said:
I stopped the minute I learned about having cancer (not related to smoking in any possible way).

I don't really have cravings and use Nicorette (I used less than 10 in 50 days) when I'm at braais or in a smoker environment.

The challenge will be to not start again once in remission I guess. I'll probably go to vaping if it's too hard.
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It's not too hard. Vaping is not a solution. Make a decision, and stick to it. Two of my direct family members have died from cancer. I did not have an option but to stop.

Akasha said:
This. I stopped smoking after 10+ years, using those pills that give nasty lucid dreams. My dad who's been smoking for much longer has been in the hospital for a few weeks now, he had a stroke. He's not all there anymore, but he hasn't forgotten that he smokes. He often tells us to put the cigarette out for him and gives us his hand. There's no cigarette obviously but I think he's so used to it, he doesn't want to stop
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Champix? I used it to stop as well, and my dreams were also super trippy.
 
TBH, if they dont want to stop forcing them to quit wont help,

I realise that some people needed something to happen first before they decided to quit,
so a visit to a doctor and a MRI might help? or anything else that might convince them?

or is all a waste of time, if they want to quit, they will quit....
 
Most people find it extremely difficult to quit and stop smoking. It is all in the mind ( Mind over matter) One needs strong will power and to go cold turkey. That is the only way, it's possible to stop. But you have to have a strong desire to do so, or you will fail over and over again.
 
but my main question is, can anybody quit, and not suffer health consequences due to quitting?

so far I think its a toss up between continuing with it, and getting a much worse disease due to quitting....

ie what would you rather have, die happy smoking in your coffin, or die in terrible pain in hospital due to quitting.
 
eg2505 said:
but my main question is, can anybody quit, and not suffer health consequences due to quitting?

so far I think its a toss up between continuing with it, and getting a much worse disease due to quitting....

ie what would you rather have, die happy smoking in your coffin, or die in terrible pain in hospital due to quitting.
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The simple fact is that smoking kills. It ages prematurely, causes cancer and a host of other diseases and side effects. There is no medical reason to continue smoking. The only medical reason I can think to not stop smoking is if there is another addiction that is being addressed, or if the patient has mental / depression issues. You can encourage someone to stop, but that will not be the factor to make a person stop. It's 100% a personal decision.

A person's quality of life will increase in a matter of weeks after they stop smoking. I despair as I have family members that smoke, and have seen them suffer because of it. It's however their decision, and they need to live with the consequences. I am being harsh, but it's the truth.
 
Emjay said:
A person's quality of life will increase in a matter of weeks after they stop smoking. I despair as I have family members that smoke, and have seen them suffer because of it. It's however their decision, and they need to live with the consequences. I am being harsh, but it's the truth.
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totally agree with you,
its 100% their decision,
only problem I have with it, it the cost and the fact that it impact my life even though I never started and never intend to start in the first place.....

I sure others in the same place as me, have a family member that smokes and uses your cash to pay for it.....
problem is my good decision wont help others as much as Id want to .

also in my case, they been smoking for a long time so long that I suspect it will cause more harm than prevent....
can anybody corroborate this?

tldr smoking for a long time, quit, and something worse happened.....
 
Trompie67 said:
Started smoking age 13 - stole from my father! Lucky Strike & Texan Plain.

Stopped at age 45. Cold Turkey. Was then smoking on 20 to 30 a day & had been since I left school. More if on the jol and drinking - 2 packs in a night out easily.. Camel Plain & Camel Filter. The odd Gauloise here and there.

Made 10kg of pickled onions. Had one every time I wanted a smoke.

As said before, the person has to mentally WANT to stop. Otherwise it is a waste of time to even try.
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I am totally fscking trying this!!!
 
My Grandfather stopped after 40 years. Put down the unfinished pack one day without a word and my gran threw it away a couple of weeks later. You either want to stop or don't. He turned 86 a month ago and is still going strong.
 
Werfetter said:
My Grandfather stopped after 40 years. Put down the unfinished pack one day without a word and my gran threw it away a couple of weeks later. You either want to stop or don't. He turned 86 a month ago and is still going strong.
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Great news. Long may he yet live.

Personally, I suspect more lies in the genes than we sometimes think. My father was a fanatical anti-smoker and a fitness fanatic and outdoorsman all his life. He died of cancer in his mid-60s. My wife's father was a heavy smoker from age 12 and died in his 80s. Obviously environment/smoking is an inadequate and incomplete explanation for this variance. It's complicated.

Earlier this year I had my annual checkup incl chest x-ray. While holding the x-ray report in his hand, the doc look at me gravely and said "As your doctor and knowing you're a smoker, I really don't like telling you this ... {Pregnant pause} ... your lungs are remarkably clear."

(Yes, yes, I know all about general rules and exceptions, etc, etc. Just sayin' the deleterious effects aren't as clear-cut as people sometimes suggest. Do not read this thread.)
 
crackersa said:
So many experts here that have no idea how addiction controls a person.
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100%...

I'm in the process of quitting, and to be honest I've found some parts very easy, others not so much.

I enjoy a drink or two in the evening, and that generally is the time I either fail at the quitting part, or its very difficult not to smoke.
 
Arthur said:
Great news. Long may he yet live.

Personally, I suspect more lies in the genes than we sometimes think. My father was a fanatical anti-smoker and a fitness fanatic and outdoorsman all his life. He died of cancer in his mid-60s. My wife's father was a heavy smoker from age 12 and died in his 80s. Obviously environment/smoking is an inadequate and incomplete explanation for this variance. It's complicated.

Earlier this year I had my annual checkup incl chest x-ray. While holding the x-ray report in his hand, the doc look at me gravely and said "As your doctor and knowing you're a smoker, I really don't like telling you this ... {Pregnant pause} ... your lungs are remarkably clear."

(Yes, yes, I know all about general rules and exceptions, etc, etc. Just sayin' the deleterious effects aren't as clear-cut as people sometimes suggest. Do not read this thread.)
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As with everything in life it is not as clear cut as a yes or no. Some people are naturally athletic. My father was not and yet he ran 100 milers because he refused to accept that he cannot. I also smoked for around 3 years. At some point the coughing started annoying me and I put down my pipe (I still have my keyser in a cupboard somewhere) and walked away. Will power is a very large part of it as well as genetics, history, chemistry and sometimes just pure dumb luck.

The point is that it is possible. Sometimes just knowing that is enough to put you over the edge. :)
 
Emjay said:
Vaping is not a solution.
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Why?
In my opinion vaping is the only solution for someone who does not want to stop smoking. It requires very little will power.

Worked for me- took 3 years from my 1st vape to may last cig (if I had today's equipment it would have taken less time), and another 2 years after that ocassionally vaping glycerine (0% nic no flavour added) before the vaping also petered out.

I just gradually reduced the smoking and increased the vaping as I started enjoying vaping more than smoking. No withdrawal symptoms.
 
eg2505 said:
TBH, if they dont want to stop forcing them to quit wont help,

I realise that some people needed something to happen first before they decided to quit,
so a visit to a doctor and a MRI might help? or anything else that might convince them?

or is all a waste of time, if they want to quit, they will quit....
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A smoker knows full well what damage the smoking is doing to them. So telling them how bad it is or even showing them means jack ****.

They aren't stupid. They are just willfully ignoring the fact.

It's not your problem. If they want to quit they'll quit.
 
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