Can Telkom revive itself?

What is there to revive? nothing really.So just let it die a silent death.
 
Things are falling apart at Telkom quite badly, when they can no longer sustain current services to certain regions, never mind providing new services it is all too easy for competitors to snap up these customers.

The problem we have in SA is that it only requires them to be slightly cheaper or slightly better than Telkom. There is no real pressure to beef up service levels or drop prices.
 
It's the business side where they really going to suffer the most, :D just wait till they lose their diginet business...telscum's main cash cow.

Their service and prices are the worst. I mean why are we paying ~R3000 p/m for a 64k diginet from Durban to Richards bay.... for the 1 day SLA? I don't think so :rolleyes:
 
eltherza said:
Government owns a big chunk of Neotel and telkom. do you REALLY think prices will just suddenly drop?
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Very true. Even if Neotel start operating (if ever), the money goes to the very same ppl (Ivy and co.). It's a cycle. In the next 20 yrs, we'll say Neotel is a monopoly.

The sad part is that, IF Telkom goes down, the very same people who worked for Telkom will join Neotel. So basically, they are just changing Telkom to Neotel. This is a long-term strategy.
We all think Ivy is dumb, she'll be benefiting from Neotel.
 
the burning has begun.... now we just have to wait for telkom to crash

mu hahahahah
 
Unfortunately the rapid demise of the company we all love to hate will not improve services any. We might feel better for a couple of days, and then when all the phones and data connections fall apart (which would I suspect include all the cell phones and wireless last mile) we would be rather un-happy again. SA could do without any further infrastructure catastophes...

We need a competitive telecoms market, with successful, lean, efficient, customer focussed network and access providers. Maybe a painful death in the telecoms family is the only way to get the change we need, but that will not be the best route for the SA economy and people.

(Please note, Telkom listeners, that protecting the economy by maintaining the status quo because change will be too dangerous is not your get out clause. Inaction for another year or two will certainly result in your disappearance.)

I'm pretty sure that Telkom has enough people - probably far too many - but whether they are the right people, with the right attitude, doing the right jobs is more the question.

Time will tell whether Telkom can indeed survive in emerging market place. If not, well that's the way it goes.
 
Biggest mistake

In my opinion the biggest mistake a growing country can possibly make is to privatise services like Telkom railways, hospitals and Eskom provided...It just does not work.

The infrastructure required is just to big for private companies, the chaos we are going to face in near future is just going to be unbearable.

The state should rather use taxpayers money wisely to assist these huge infrastructures, at least we can see where it's going, and pin there prices down to levels that is good for all of us and growth, the same for the railways and hospitals.

The private sector is money hungry lot, and they will allways kill these important services in the long run, messing up everything else with it, OK a few get very very rich very quickly.

Let the private sector take control of all the luxury stuff and eat their hearts out, while the country move forward rock solid.

Another big mistake large companies in growing countries make is adopting staff controlling software at rediculous prices. What in fact happens here, is that such companies are crumpled by controls from overseas who nobody really can understand the long term effect of......So if you want to cripple another company, sell a controll system to them......They then think they controll themselves optimally,....till the bell rings for them....
 
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Moto Guzzi said:
In my opinion the biggest mistake a growing country can possibly make is to privatise services like Telkom railways, hospitals and Eskom provided...It just does not work.

The infrastructure required is just to big for private companies, the chaos we are going to face in near future is just going to be unbearable.

The state should rather use taxpayers money wisely to assist these huge infrastructures, at least we can see where it's going, and pin there prices down to levels that is good for all of us and growth, the same for the railways and hospitals.

The private sector is money hungry lot, and they will allways kill these important services in the long run, messing up everything else with it, OK a few get very very rich very quickly.

Let the private sector take control of all the luxury stuff and eat their hearts out, while the country move forward rock solid.

Another big mistake large companies in growing countries make is adopting staff controlling software at rediculous prices. What in fact happens here, is that such companies are crumpled by controls from overseas who nobody really can understand the long term effect of......So if you want to cripple another company, sell a controll system to them......They then think they controll themselves optimally,....till the bell rings for them....
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I disagree totally. :D You can't blame Telkom and Eskom as private companies, because in effect they're not private companies, they're government-backed monopolies, which is what is causing all our problems. If it was a true free market and other companies were allowed to compete we wouldn't be having these problems.
 
There are talks that as many as fifteen players could be given exactly the same rights as Telkom in the next year.
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Excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I'm hearing of this? Is there a link to an earlier article or any further news on this?
 
I should have said, these companies adopt cultures to be run like private companies but the theory dismally failed.
Railways...F edd up....Result:trucks ruiened the countries roads
Hospitals..F edd up
Power......F edd up
Air travel...F edd up.......

These are all huge infrasructures..............The state of a healthy country should always do certain things.....If they cannot, the private sector cannot possibly save it...!!
 
Moto Guzzi said:
I should have said, these companies adopt cultures to be run like private companies but the theory dismally failed.
Railways...F edd up....Result:trucks ruiened the countries roads
Hospitals..F edd up
Power......F edd up
Air travel...F edd up.......

These are all huge infrasructures..............The state of a healthy country should always do certain things.....If they cannot, the private sector cannot possibly save it...!!
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They're screwed up because of chronic mismanagement and government interference, it has nothing to do with the private sector, private hospitals are doing fine, as are the private airlines.
 
Private hospitals

I think their bells are starting to ring as well.........Fraud will kill a lot of them..
 
Digging

OK, lets dig into a small thing....

The patient gets taken up in hospital for cancer, he has some money to spare...

His blood gets taken every 20 min and charged against his account, what de hell, he can't speak or act properly for himself at that stage, and so it goes on and on....All very "neatly and professionally" done of course.....
 
Crash and burn, then rot and hopefully lots of those bloody shareholders end up broke.
 
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