Canal Walk bans guns

Nom Chompsky

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Not sure how helpful this is. As far as I know, the robbers are in & out the mall rather quickly, so the chance they will be searched is minimal. Not like the robbers will listen to this "no gun" policy.

Cape Town - Canal Walk will eject anyone carrying a gun – even legal firearm owners – as it hikes up security measures after a series of armed heists at the mall.

Police said 20 suspects had been arrested and others identified from camera footage of over 15 mall robberies in the Cape this year – four of which targeted Canal Walk.

The centre’s security is conducting stop-and-searches that have legal firearm owners up in arms and calling for a boycott of the mall.

In an incident on Sunday, five men were searched in their car and denied entry after security received a tip-off from a shopper that they were armed.

Canal Walk centre manager Vanessa Herbst confirmed the incident.

Herbst said that after the tip-off police and security were called to the parking area, near the Pick n Pay entrance, where the car was parked. She said upon being searched it was found that both the firearm and vehicle were licensed, but their owners were turned away due to the mall’s no-firearms policy.

In Canal Walk’s published “House Rules”, firearms are not on the list of items prohibited from the internal areas of the mall, but are listed under “forbidden in the common areas and external areas of the mall”.

Chief executive Gavin Wood said the no-firearms rule had always been the case, even if it wasn’t strictly enforced.

“Similar to most shopping centres in the Western Cape we have always had a no-firearm policy with appropriate signage at our entrances,” Wood said.

“While this policy has not been strictly enforced, in light of the current crime we believe it is in the best interest of our shoppers.”

While the mall has not been declared a gun-free zone in terms of the Firearms Control Act, Wood said the centre was exercising its discretion as a private entity.

Source: http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/cape-mall-bans-guns-1.1770846#.VE3oCCLQpQs
 
Hmmm... I'm not seeing how this will help practically.
The last few mall robberies weren't fellas walking in with concealed handguns, they were walking in with unconcealed assault rifles.
The only people affected by these measures are legal firearm owners.
 
Ye, it's kind of like asking scammers not to reply to your ads on Gumtree. Although it could prevent some trigger happy person from putting more peoples lives at risk by trying to be a hero. The less guns the less chance of a innocent bystanders getting caught in the middle.
 
Great, so now people can't protect themselves. If you outlaw guns (in the mall), only outlaws will be armed.

I cant recall any mall robbery article where one of the shoppers did anything to stop them. So either "responsible" gun owners know better than to shoot in a public space with lots of people or they're just plain scared.
 
The only way this will hike up security measures is if they try to enforce it. Someone hasn't thought this through.
 
Sadly, and as convoluted it may be, it actually does make sense. If the robbers are the only ones armed, the chances of a gun fight breaking out reduce. That way they walk in, take what they want and leave. No would-be James Bond trying to rescue the world armed with his 9mm and eight rounds.
 
And the police says "Stop killing!", yet we have over 16 000 murders a year in this country.

Nice try, nonetheless.
 
I cant recall any mall robbery article where one of the shoppers did anything to stop them. So either "responsible" gun owners know better than to shoot in a public space with lots of people or they're just plain scared.

Um, he didn't say they need to stop them. He stated that now they can't protect themselves should the BG's pose a threat to their lives.
 
So the heists will get more prevalent once the news spread that it would be a safe haven for criminals as there will be no guns on the premises apart from a few normally useless security guards.
 
Don't have a policy if you don't enforce it. They're trying to enforce it now, so that's positive.
 
Um, he didn't say they need to stop them. He stated that now they can't protect themselves should the BG's pose a threat to their lives.


The Bene Gesserit are threatening us?:D

Seriously, though: I'm not particularly gun-friendly myself, but I also fail to see how this will stop people carrying great big assault rifles openly from holding up shops.
 
The only people that will comply with this rule, are the law abiding citizens.

So they will succeed in chasing away people that are not a threat.

It will do f-all to the criminals.
 
I cant recall any mall robbery article where one of the shoppers did anything to stop them. So either "responsible" gun owners know better than to shoot in a public space with lots of people or they're just plain scared.

It's the former. I carry a firearm not to prevent mall robberies, etc. I carry a firearm to protect myself and the lives of my family. If there is no immediate threat to myself, my family, or someone in which I have a legal interest in, i.e. someone about to be shot, etc. there is no reason I will ever draw my firearm.

If that's not the case, I assure you, I have no problem fighting tooth and nail. And someone who isn't prepared to do this, IMHO, shouldn't be carrying a firearm in any case.
 
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Wonder how CIT will collect cash inside the hippy mall...
 
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