Cap - has anyone been hardcapped ?

pupa said:
Point here the argument and "constraints" you refer to is not logical. Correct me if I am wrong, May take on this is:

Nobody can do anything about the international oil price. In analogy Telkom can do something about the Broadband issues.
If the car runs out of feul it stops. Broadband do not need to stop.
Feul prices are determined by market economy. Broadband South Africa pricing is determined by TELKOM greed.
Telkom charge international rates for local bandwidth that should be free. More theft. Therefore IS is doing it differently with retaining the local 30Gig bandwidth. The reason Telkom have problems is that even if I surf locally, it could be routed via international routes. Now that Telkom vs IS have the issues re the peering I think Telkom have no choice to do so as they shot themselves also in the foot. So all they do as usual is transfer the problem and expense over to the consumer.
Again correct me if I am wrong, I also want to learn
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Sure, what you say is true, and cannot be disputed. My point is that within the confines of the hard cap and the high price, users know what they can get out of their broadband account, and should be knowledgeable enough to know that they will reach their cap, and to make the necessary provision to keep an active account going.

I'm not discussing the pricing or capping, which is a disgrace, but rather the way some users are dealing with the situation.
 
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Sure, what you say is true, and cannot be disputed. My point is that within the confines of the hard cap and the high price, users know what they can get out of their broadband account, and should be knowledgeable enough to know that they will reach their cap, and to make the necessary provision to keep an active account going.
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IMO Its the minority that actually will know what to do with the capping system and how to work within it, the bulk of the end users who I have had to work have no concept of bandwidth and traffic, they know it works and dont care how and wouldnt get it if you drew them pictures with oversize pink crayons.

I know that you have to work within these gestapo restrictions, but the fact that we have less then 10k users on myadsl (correct me if im wrong) out of the 100 000 of them, means that the bulk of them are unaware of the cost of the service, the issues around it, they will probably hit their cap, not understand and just pay anyway "just to make it work".

How many of you users are going to understand this and not get hit because they had to keep within limits? It would be a good indication to see how many people get caught.

Not taking a dig m8, its a crap situation for all of us :(
 
Hard capping saga

For those of you that experienced a hiccup in the TelkomInternet service, all should be back to normal now, sorry we never saw it coming :o but it's all fix now.

Pls treat with a little respect for a while as the service will be based on "average" and high end "VS" users will be hard capped. Formal communication will go out next week to confirm, but we're trying our best to keep is fast & friendly and even open for most, even if it costs a few VS clients in the process but the law of average must prevail for it to remain viable :)
 
So Hellb0y are u saying that if ure on telkom isp u wont get capped internationally until the average is reached.

So someone can get to 100gigs international before being capped.
 
4cer said:
So Hellb0y are u saying that if ure on telkom isp u wont get capped internationally until the average is reached.

So someone can get to 100gigs international before being capped.
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You may go anywhere :D but pull a 100 gig and you will join the VS club, treat with respect and we will all stay friends.
 
Can U imagine if we had to kill heroes? nah, that's like clubbing baby bears while mama's watching ... your only looking for trouble.:D
 
I don't understand how downloading is "abuse"...
We(The consumers) pay for a service and expect it to be up to standards and yet some consumers get labled as "abusers" because they utilize it how it should be used. I am sure the Telkom adverts showed various things you can do with ADSL and yet the consumers get beat down for using it...

I love u Telkom, and I'll love you even more when you go out of business.

And btw, I phoned for tech support today, apparently it is my ISP's fault that there is noise on my line...
 
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Heroes sacrifice themselves for a greater good in most myths. Just look at the J3sus story. Ultimate Hero.
 
Fluke, downloading is not abuse and mind sets will change (improve), be little patient. As for traffic, I agree, if you pay for it then it best be good !! So keep your eye on service over the next months, usage now means that "all should be fair in love and war"

As for going our of business, not likely, I love what I do to much and if DSL is no more I will end up paying 3 times the current price from one of the other operators ;)

Fluke said "And btw, I phoned for tech support today, apparently it is my ISP's fault that there is noise on my line..."

Hey all the ISP's blame Telkom, cant Telkom blame the ISP's for a change?
 
Where does it make any sense for a Telkom techie to tell me that it is my ISP's fault that there is noise on my line? My ISP has no access to any copper cabling here... You know that thing, the LLU that everyone wants but Telkom won't give.

There might be some sort of reason that almost every ISP blames things on Telkom, hell, almost everyone on these forums blames Telkom, with good reason of course. If Telkom doesn't want the blame they must start providing a decent service, at decent prices, and if they don't want us to complain about what is happening now, why not tell us(the consumers) what you are planning that will benefit US if WE are "patient".
 
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I again get that inkling feeling that TELKOM employees is telling every body ?
Be patient
Something is going to happen
It is good for all of us
Great things is to come
But yet we have a overly shaped, overly expensive, low capped and now a per gig billing system making the broadband internet in SA useless.

Its cheaper and quicker to fly to Hong Kong download 100g data and return

So either they are all BS us or they are to mental to read these forum pages and see the disgrace of the broadband structure TELKOM brought upon us.

Telkom is no more than a blatant kniving, lying, thieving, scheming protected monopoly and it goes for anyone defending their so call morals and they will regret what they have done in future.
 
Its time to take to the streets again... This new system is sickening.
 
So let me get this straight TelkomISP is taking the approach of the low users will balance out the Very Special people, thus they let u go over your cap.
 
another question Hellb0y, do u know something we dont, cuz you posted on a SGS server, that by this time next year we will all be uncapped and unshaped.
 
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