Cape Town Fire/Smoke Alert Thread

I'm not too sure about the 'lessons being leant' part, but then again, once this fire is properly out, we'll see.

• Fire breaks, fire breaks fire breaks!!!!!!!!!
• Farms should get tools/equipment/training necessary to combat fires themselves (VWS I think does this too) so that they don't have to rely on others, or at least, for the start... they can do their bit and then call for backup - sitting and waiting for help just does not work!
• Be man enough to admit when you need help and not be shy to ask for it

I am sure there are more, but I'm not in the mood to sit and think about the others now.
 
*sits with head in hands*
Fire this morning just next to us on Elandskloof farm at the foot of Sir Lowry's. lucky not too much wind at the moment, we also had no electricity all night and as we are on boreholes that means no water if we need to fight fire!!!!
My nerves....
 
Paarl seems to be having it's turn, hopefully they get some helicopters out there quickly.

http://www.ewn.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=7950
No respite for firefighters
Eyewitness News | 10 Minutes Ago

Drakenstein fire services were battling a fire raging in the mountains above Paarl on Thursday morning.

The fire broke out in the Voortrekkerskamp area late on Wednesday night.

Drakenstein fire chief Dereck Damos said firefighters worked throughout the night to contain the blaze, but that strong winds were hampering their efforts.

Western Cape authorities have warned that the province will experience heat wave conditions until Friday.

Temperatures were set to reach 38 degrees in Cape Town, 40 in the Boland and 42 on the West Coast on Thursday.

The conditions favoured runaway fires.

The authorities have prohibited open fires.
 
Satellite from 11:20 this morning. Lot of smoke coming from Helderberg and Paarl.

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Hi all,

Quick question;

Yesterday, I did a private job for a guy, I basically fixed his PC and charged him R200, he was so impressed with me, he gave me R500! YAY!

Now, having extra cash, I decided to take R100 and put it towards the VWS - what I wanted to do was thinking of doing was going shopping on Saturday and buying stuff I know we need and then taking it to base on Sunday (I'm doing a patrol on Sunday)

But now, I'm thinking of being a bit ambitious - anyone here who wants to up the shopping list, by giving me some extra money, please PM me.

My idea was that (a) you EFT some cash to me, R50 to R100 ?!?? MORE if you want or (b) you go do shopping and then drop it off with me.

Either way, those who EFT cash to me, I will scan and e-mail you proof (receipt) of what I spent the cash on.

Just a thought... whos keen? If you are, PM me so I can organize before Sunday.

Oh, gladly mention whomever donated, I won't take all the credit and such.
 
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Now the problem is going to be catching the individuals. One of the guys at work said he heard on CapeTalk they had found a cigarette with about a hundred matches tied around it at Vergelegen.

http://www.ewn.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=8095
Zille calls for probe into CT fires
Eyewitness News | 12 Minutes Ago
Cape Town Mayor Helen Zille has called for a thorough forensic investigation into the fires in the Peninsula.

Zille said there was evidence that some of the fires were the work of arsonists after failed fire starting devices were found.

Zille said the city laid two charges with the police.
 
I doubt they'll catch the people in question and even if they do find someone who saw someone etc... proving it is another story. :(
 
Seems Cape Town is back to ORANGE alert (high fire risk)

Doubt there will be a fire though :)
Hope there isn't... I'll be climbing Lions head tonight with a fellow VWS member.
If will LOOOOOOOOOOOSE it if we get to the top and there is a fire call out!

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised - knowing my luck!
 
I am back again. There was another small fire set in the Pine forests next to the Nature reserve last week. It seems these arsonists wishes to burn everything until there is nothing left to burn. Does anyone know where all the smoke came from yesterday morning? The mountains in Somerset West looked haizy from the Strand.
 
It is sad, I get pictures of fire trucks in other countries that are parked in scrapyards, when other countries, (us and Australia) could really use them.
 
There was also a fire on Devils Peak on Sunday (12:30ish)

It was nothing major, but it was still fun going to it... pictures are available on my Flickr site.

Richard M, Michael M & Rob S got water bombed 2x by the helicopter! That was funny!
 
There was also a fire on Devils Peak on Sunday (12:30ish)

It was nothing major, but it was still fun going to it... pictures are available on my Flickr site.

Richard M, Michael M & Rob S got water bombed 2x by the helicopter! That was funny!

I got bombed last year by an Oryx near Slangkop, got some amazing photos with a wide angle lens. It was like a wall of water hitting as the bucket was probably only 10m from me. Fortunately they were not using fire retardant as some types itch like hell.

There was an interesting article in the Sunday Times yesterday about the fires in Somerset West and Stellenbosch. It is going to be interesting to see what other information comes to light.

http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=959234
Winelands fires could have been controlled
Philani Nombembe and Nashira Davids Published:Mar 15, 2009
Helicopter with flame-fighting ability grounded owing to non-payment.

South African retail tycoon Christo Wiese watched helplessly as vineyards, fruit orchards and pine trees worth about R30-million went up in smoke when fire scorched parts of his acclaimed wine estate.

The chairman of Pepkor and owner of Lourensford Wine Estate is among scores of Western Cape property owners picking up the pieces after fires in the Somerset West region, near Cape Town, raged for almost a month.

Thousands of fires have broken out in and around Cape Town since the start of the year, destroying property and vast stretches of land.

One fire, which started on February 4 and was still smouldering this week, wreaked havoc on three prime wine estates — Lourensford, Vergelegen and Wedderwill.

The damage to the three estates is estimated at R40.5-million.

While some of the country’s elite were assessing their losses, experts said the damage could have been minimised if bigger helicopters had been used by the government-funded organisation Working on Fire to fight the flames.

The fire scorched about 1500ha of Wiese’s property.

“I bought the farm in 1998. It cost me an awful lot of money... refurbishing the farm to redevelop it,” he said. “It is always sad to see such a beautiful place scarred by fire, but within a year or two, when the winter rains come and the fynbos has grown again, those scars will be largely obliterated.”

Lourensford, the largest wine estate in the country, has won several national and international awards for its wines. It also boasts the largest privately owned wine cellar in the country, with a capacity of 5000 tons or approximately four million bottles.

Lourensford’s production manager, Barry Humby, said a million pine trees had been lost, which made up about 95% of its plantation.

“We also lost 40000 of our trout — a huge portion of our fish farm harvest. Four hectares of vineyards and fruit orchards were badly damaged. The total value could be between R25-million and R30-million,” he said.

Don Tooth, managing director of Vergelegen, which is owned by mining giant Anglo American, estimated that the inferno had caused between R5-million and R10-million damage.

“About five hectares of vineyards were affected by the heat and will probably have to be replanted, but a detailed investigation of the impact of both heat and smoke (on the remaining crop) is being conducted,” he said.

Tooth said Anglo chief executive Cynthia Carroll knew about the blaze but had been unable to visit the farm. He added that she had been “very supportive” of efforts to bring the blaze under control.

Wolfgang von Loeper, general manager of Wedderwill Wine Estate, said damages amounted to about R400000. The 390ha biodiversity estate incorporates a wine estate, game reserve and residential estate.

While the fires raged, Working on Fire — which was launched by government to fight veld fires — was locked in a dispute with UT Air South Africa.

The company is contracted by the organisation to supply helicopters for wildfire-fighting duties.

But UT Air director Vladimir Koval said its Russian helicopter, an MI-8 MTV capable of lifting more than three tons of water at a time, had been grounded as a result of non-payment.

The helicopter was damaged in an earlier operation, but Koval refused to have it fixed or send a replacement.

Huey helicopters belonging to Working on Fire and Oryx helicopters of the South African National Defence Force were used to water-bomb the flames. Hueys can lift up to 1000 litres of water, and the Oryx up to 2000 litres.

Working on Fire head Johan Heine said: “During the recent fires in the Western Cape, the MI-8 MTV helicopter hired from UT Air developed gearbox problems. Spares were ordered from Russia. During this time, due to an administrative oversight, there were unexpected delays in payment from Working on Fire to UT Air.”

Koval said this week that “millions” had since been paid to his company. He said experts believed such a powerful aircraft could have brought the fires under control much sooner.

Martin Steynberg, chief executive of Titan Helicopters, said the Russian aircraft could fly in bad weather conditions, carrying three times more water than a Huey.

“I am sure that with the right helicopters the fire could have been brought under control quicker. I’ve never seen a fire burn for so long.”

Last year Steynberg cancelled his contract with Working on Fire owing to non-payment. He said the organisation still owed his company R500000 and was R8-million in arrears at one stage.

Asked whether the MI-8 MTV would have made a difference, Cape Town fire chief Ian Schnetler said: “Any other form of aerial support would have been useful.”

Phillip Prins, fire manager of Table Mountain National Park, said: “We use the big helicopter because it carries more water at a time and it can fly in gale-force winds, something a Huey cannot do.”

The park has cut ties with Working on Fire, but Prins would not give reasons for this decision.

Dean Ferreira, manging director of the Nature Conservation Corporation, which was contracted by Vergelegen Wine Estate to battle the flames, believes the helicopters used were not “effective enough” to fight the fires.
 
From what I've learnt with regards to using helicopters - is you have to have a ground team too.

Helicopter drops water, ground team moves in to tackle the flames.
 
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