CapeXit 2

Poll is for all in South Africa -

  • Do you believe W/Cape secession from the Republic is feasible ?

    Votes: 28 34.1%

  • Would you support a bid for W/Cape to secede from the Republic ?

    Votes: 33 40.2%

  • In the event of secession being successful, would you consider migrating to W/Cape ?

    Votes: 23 28.0%

  • In the event of secession being successful, would you consider migrating out of W/Cape ?

    Votes: 3 3.7%

  • Would you support other provinces bids for secession ?

    Votes: 20 24.4%

  • I disagree to all questions

    Votes: 35 42.7%

  • Would you support a "Swiss Canton" style of governance for the Republic ?

    Votes: 24 29.3%
  • Total voters
    82
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quovadis said:
When’s the referendum? Why’s it taking so long?
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One more voice.

Every little helps.
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Thanks quovadis... I had you on 'serious timewaster,' but... as they say... never say never.
 
lexity said:
One more voice.

Every little helps.
🙏


Thanks quovadis... I had you on 'serious timewaster,' but... as they say... never say never.
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Logic failure, people wanting a referendum or even in favour of conducting one doesn’t mean they would vote in favour of secession. It would simply end the debate either way.
 
Brian_G said:
That support is scientifically determined by a respected company who helps the DA as well, that's if you consider polls scientific. I'm still not sure of its accuracy anyway.
But if we take it as accurate enough, for me it paints a picture of people willing to dream but not (yet) willing to plunge into the chaos of separation.
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Yes we’ve heard this a million times unfortunately or fortunately polls are not infallible. The first crack is the political support doesn’t align with the polls.
 
quovadis said:
Logic failure, people wanting a referendum or even in favour of conducting one doesn’t mean they would vote in favour of secession. It would simply end the debate either way.
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I'm sure you might agree though that the timing is important here - if a referendum comes too early, given the very visible failure of support in the election (although some say that's supposedly not much related) it's unlikely it could gain popular support in this non-emergency climate.
However, if it came after efforts to legitimise CIM eforts, again, and after further SA and WC concerns arise, then... who knows
 
Brian_G said:
I'm sure you might agree though that the timing is important here - if a referendum comes too early, given the very visible failure of support in the election (although some say that's supposedly not much related) it's unlikely it could gain popular support in this non-emergency climate.
However, if it came after efforts to legitimise CIM eforts, again, and after further SA and WC concerns arise, then... who knows
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You’re arguing that polls demonstrate support and now that timing is important. That’s non-sensical.
 
quovadis said:
You’re arguing that polls demonstrate support and now that timing is important. That’s non-sensical.
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Not at all. Real action support (IE beyond poll sentiments) changes, people are quite easily swayed.

But bottom line for me is if they're generally wanting this change, not to try and manipulate their thinking. I'm just suggesting that a climate that makes more sense would help get a more realistic understanding.
 
Brian_G said:
Not at all. Real action support (IE beyond poll sentiments) changes, people are quite easily swayed.

But bottom line for me is if they're generally wanting this change, not to try and manipulate their thinking. I'm just suggesting that a climate that makes more sense would help get a more realistic understanding.
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Maybe Phil just needs some better styling or lack of styling, a big red bus and a snappier slogan? You’d think it should be left to informed and pragmatic decision making…
 
quovadis said:
You’d think it should be left to informed and pragmatic decision making…
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He certainly needs to still do much informing - little post-independence planning evident at all (but that was earlier in today's chat).
 
quovadis said:
He can fundraise a million a year by grievance tweeting. Planning is far less lucrative.
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What is it about Phil Craig that triggers pinkos so much?

Is it that he's so much like a DA supporter but that this one blemish i.e. CI, and possibly that he doesn't mind working with the DA leadership towards federalism, is enough for a few mybb hen-peckers to run around setting their feathers on fire?
 
lexity said:
What is it about Phil Craig that triggers pinkos so much?

Is it that he's so much like a DA supporter but that this one blemish i.e. CI, and possibly that he doesn't mind working with the DA leadership towards federalism, is enough for a few mybb hen-peckers to run around setting their feathers on fire?
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What did I say that was inaccurate?
 
lexity said:
What is it about Phil Craig that triggers pinkos so much?

Is it that he's so much like a DA supporter but that this one blemish i.e. CI, and possibly that he doesn't mind working with the DA leadership towards federalism, is enough for a few mybb hen-peckers to run around setting their feathers on fire?
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What is it about Cyril that triggers non-pinkos?
 
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