CapeXit 2

Poll is for all in South Africa -

  • Do you believe W/Cape secession from the Republic is feasible ?

    Votes: 28 34.1%
  • Would you support a bid for W/Cape to secede from the Republic ?

    Votes: 33 40.2%
  • In the event of secession being successful, would you consider migrating to W/Cape ?

    Votes: 23 28.0%
  • In the event of secession being successful, would you consider migrating out of W/Cape ?

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • Would you support other provinces bids for secession ?

    Votes: 20 24.4%
  • I disagree to all questions

    Votes: 35 42.7%
  • Would you support a "Swiss Canton" style of governance for the Republic ?

    Votes: 24 29.3%

  • Total voters
    82
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What utter rubbish, Brian_G.

Perhaps you don't know what you are a part of, here. This is the battle of ideas.

If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Rather become a reader, until you have some of your own thoughts that you can originate, and elucidate on, on the topic.

Btw, your posts are longer than mine going back a few months, now. And anyway, it's rare I post a long post, I give mostly short descriptions ..... until someone challenges what I've written (which you do regularly). Then only do I go into more details.

You then turn around and tell me take my philosophy elsewhere...... like an entitlement minded little brat, who relies on the State for his conclusions and judgement of people.

You're preaching to people here who know you much better than that attempt at deception, near-complete bollocks.

Lie to yourself if you must..
I'm the same guy I always was.

And no, I won't stop the reasonable pressure, you self-centred **!#%.
 
Perhaps you should clarify what you mean by libertarian philosophy, since the the middle class owes it's very existence to the pursuit of wisdom(the meaning of the word 'philosophy').
this is a thread about w/c secession, not your ideological ideals
Anyone who's interested in discussing a better form of government, is interested in libertarian philosophy.

I already mentioned this but you guys seem determined to reserve the right to remain impervious to reasoned, logical discussion if it means you have to change your mind on something.
"reasoned, logical discussion" - what you really mean is your dictates, what you deem to be logical - the world according to lexity.
i long for the day i am able to bask in the glorious shadow of your intellectual superiority
Consigning discussion to the Philosophy section, for example, because it corners you logically, when applied to the real world discussed in other threads, is cowardly.
because is corners me / the rest of us logically ??

real world ?
i doubt you have had much experience out there
You both show the same intractability in so far as the strongest argument winning goes.

It's as though you dare not let go of the initiation of the use of force, as your fall back option.
assumptions 101
 
Someone else deal with this, if you want to. I'm done with friendly shielding
 
Perhaps you should clarify what you mean by libertarian philosophy, since the the middle class owes it's very existence to the pursuit of wisdom(the meaning of the word 'philosophy').
this is a thread about w/c secession, not your ideological ideals
The kind of government you want falls under 'idealogical ideals'.

Sorry, if that means you have to stop outsourcing your thinking to an authority and start thinking connectedly and coherently for yourself.

#arguing-from-first-principles
 
Someone else deal with this, if you want to. I'm done with friendly shielding
^ this is exactly what I was talking about, earlier.

Coming to the defense of who he perceives is feeling pain and rejection.

That's his role, as he sees it, here.

Nothing to do with who is right, and providing the better argument.
 
Lex - on the whole people aren't interested in applying much Liberta.. ideology to WC secession at all. So it does not warrant a mass, endless, lecture-like domination of the subject.

Get it yet?

If not, read post on repeat for 2 weeks.
 
^ this is exactly what I was talking about, earlier.

Coming to the defense of who he perceives is feeling pain and rejection.

That's his role, as he sees it, here.

Nothing to do with who is right, and providing the better argument.

Actually, defending a friend in this case. But that's not a reality anymore, you're currently too disrespectful to qualify in my book.

Your idea of me is twisted by past life experience in your head, really off track. Only thing I do is TOLERATE.
 
Lex - on the whole people aren't interested in applying much Liberta.. ideology to WC secession at all.
There you go again, Brian_G ....speaking for others on a mass scale.

Wow.

Maybe dial that control-freakery knob down a few notches.


So it does not warrant a mass, endless, lecture-like domination of the subject.
You feel and respond as though its a lecture.....

Because you're not prepared to do honest, intellectual battle on these very easy to understand concepts.... concepts every parent teaches their kids at n early age.

Don't hit other people or take their stuff without their permission.
Simple stuff we're all familiar with, just applied to the real, adult world in which we live.
 
This tough love is starting to bear some fruit. Think I'll persist.

Maybe others will start using that report button, careful. Wouldn't blame them, nothing civil or reasonable about your bulldozing anymore..
 
There you go again, Brian_G ....speaking for others on a mass scale.

Wow.

Maybe dial that control-freakery knob down a few notches.

No, you've had lots of people here tell you exactly that.

You feel and respond as though its a lecture.....

Because you're not prepared to do honest, intellectual battle on these very easy to understand concepts.... concepts every parent teaches their kids at n early age.


Simple stuff we're all familiar with, just applied to the real, adult world in which we live.

You're our parent now? Bwahaha! p-off matey
 
You then turn around and tell me take my philosophy elsewhere...... like an entitlement minded little brat,
i find it rather interesting you frequently toss out the "entitlement minded little brat", phrase.

one could equally apply that phrase / descriptor to the minuscule amount of w/c residents who somehow feel they can demand independence, secession & referendums, while somehow remaining impervious to the wishes and rights of the remainder of the populace .

i shudder to think of the outcome of independence, when that independence excludes various forms of state assisted social services.
what does one say to those ppl who are in genuine need of assistance - be it medical services, financial assistance etc
 
Brian_G: I think that a meritocracy in ideas is the best way to proceed in peaceful human interaction.

Also Brian_G: Except if it means I have to adjust my ideas.
 
It will be interesting to see if that "I disagree to all questions" poll choice result drops now, if not people are likely not correcting their voting.

Edited ^^
 
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