CapeXit 2

[lexity]

So now you're judge and jury?

We are all supposed to be judges.

If you aren't the judge of who you associate with, who is?

Only children defer that responsibility to adults. Adults do not defer individual responsibility for making moral judgements on character,to other adults.

Even if you have a contract where you pay someone to perform a task that requires their judgement, the contract requires that you take responsibility for them not fulfilling their end of the bargain i.e. through penalty clauses.

Newsflash!!!! This is what it means to emerge from the stone-age.

That's how we ended up with a middle-class. We introduced the concept of adulthood i.e. individual responsibility for decision-making, including cultivating the ability to exercise good judgement of character.

 

[Brian_G]

Previous pages - lots of new article links from Phil & co.

 

[lexity]

Peacefully whilst throwing pejoratives around like they're candy at Halloween.

Ha ha.... see? @Brian_G

Name-calling is conflated with 'an act of violence'.

This is ofc a fast-track back to the dark ages.

p.s. DO NOT MOLLYCODDLE THE WEAK..... they will drag you down into their paradise of equal misery for all!!!!!

 

[Brian_G]

Only children defer that responsibility to adults. Adults do not defer individual responsibility for making moral judgements on character,to other adults.

Those who are ready to be that responsible, sure. Well done for getting there too, but now, have some compassion for those who haven't managed to yet.

Ha ha.... see? @Brian_G

Name-calling is conflated with 'an act of violence'.

This is ofc a fast-track back to the dark ages.

p.s. DO NOT MOLLYCODDLE THE WEAK..... they will drag you down into their paradise of equal misery for all!!!!!

Already covered...


Ok, I'm finished

 

[ToxicBunny]

Ha ha.... see? @Brian_G

Name-calling is conflated with 'an act of violence'.

This is ofc a fast-track back to the dark ages.

p.s. DO NOT MOLLYCODDLE THE WEAK..... they will drag you down into their paradise of equal misery for all!!!!!

Umm no.. But you carry on on your little pedestal while we laugh at the emperors new clothes.

 

[vigras rojara]

Imagine you attend your regular quarterly performance review in a corporate. You haven't achieved any of your goals not just in the last quarter, but for the last few years. Yet somehow you still have your job.

Anyway, your line manager asks why you've achieved nothing. Your excuses are:

Too many pinko commie bastards

Threats of violence from the state

People reneging on promises

People trying to impose darkness on you

The timing being wrong

Stuff going on in the background that no-one can see

More pinko commie stuff

"But look, I blogged a bit!"

Yup, you'd be standing in the UIF queue post-haste in any normal environment.

But not the CI movement, where mediocrity is celebrated and rewarded. And don't forget - someone loves saying "you get more of what you reward". Perhaps he's right about that.

 

[Brian_G]

Umm no.. But you carry on on your little pedestal while we laugh at the emperors new clothes.

Sometimes I wonder about you...

 

[lexity]

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Only children defer that responsibility to adults. Adults do not defer individual responsibility for making moral judgements on character,to other adults.

Those who are ready to be that responsible, sure. Well done for getting there too, but now, have some compassion for those who haven't managed to yet.

No, Brian_G... I don't deserve a 'well-done' for taking responsibility instead of relinquishing it, like an overgrown child to the State/Collective.

This is a Western-style legal system, that we are trying to emulate, here.

If you don't want to be an adult, you should either emigrate to a Socialist culture, or advocate for a Socialist area within the seceded WC or wherever else you can get the support, in the rest of SA.

I would certainly not use aggression to deny you that Socialist regime-preference..... as long as you afford me the same civil courtesy and respect my preference for a regime in which open competition is the minimum requirement for membership.

You can come and visit me after 5 years and perform a comparative analysis for yourself, to see which regime is better.

Deal?

 

[Brian_G]

or advocate for a Socialist area within the seceded WC

respect my preference for a regime in which open competition is the minimum requirement for membership.

Nobody here is denying you that right. Probably the preference of most (those who've realised the problem)

You can come and visit me after 5 years and perform a comparative analysis for yourself, to see which regime is better.

Deal?

Why would you think I don't side with you in those thoughts, especially after all this time. Seems there is a screw loose...

 

[Brian_G]

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Bye

 

[lexity]

Nobody here is denying you that right. Probably the preference of most (those who've realised the problem)

Actually they are.

Do you have to get permission from a gate-keeper to compete with a supermarket?

Supermarkets are State regulated, remember.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Actually they are.

Do you have to get permission from a gate-keeper to compete with a supermarket?

Supermarkets are State regulated, remember.

No they aren't lexy.

And no you don't. You need to be specific about what state regulation you are referring to.

 

[lexity]

Why would you think I don't side with you in those thoughts, especially after all this time. Seems there is a screw loose...

Simple.

When you make it illegal to call someone a name or insult them, you may not see the cost of doing that... but what you have simultaneously done is weakened kidnapping laws and the constraint the existed on the State in terms of violating your liberty..

Nothing prevents you if you can't stand insults, from not associating with the person in the free economic regime when you do that.

But what you won't be able to do, is arrest someone, or deprive them to any degree of their property (otherwise called 'a fine'), simply for expressing their opinion.

Hate-speech is not a crime. Threats if credible imminent violence is.

Don't confuse or conflate them. Because the consequences are significant.

Hate speech is entirely irreconcilable with a free society.

 

[Brian_G]

Actually they are.

I meant on the forum, all seem happy enough for you to have those freedoms. (Except maybe the few forum commies)

Do you have to get permission from a gate-keeper to compete with a supermarket?

Supermarkets are State regulated, remember.

 

[Brian_G]

Simple.

When you make it illegal to call someone a name or insult them, you may not see the cost of doing that... but what you have simultaneously done is weakened kidnapping laws and the constraint the existed on the State in terms of violating your liberty..

Nothing prevents you if you can't stand insults, from not associating with the person in the free economic regime when you do that.

But what you won't be able to do, is arrest someone, or deprive them to any degree of their property (otherwise called 'a fine'), simply for expressing their opinion.

Hate-speech is not a crime. Threats if credible imminent violence is.

Don't confuse or conflate them. Because the consequences are significant.

Hate speech is entirely irreconcilable with a free society.

For sure

I never suggested making it illegal
The fact that it's currently a sore point in legislation doesn't change that being civil is still a positive.

Perhaps you're just reactive today. But with that sore point, who could maybe blame you, it's a real concern.

 

[Brian_G]

This thread reminds me of the movie Groundhog Day , can't get away... :-/

 

[vigras rojara]

Simple.

When you make it illegal to call someone a name or insult them, you may not see the cost of doing that... but what you have simultaneously done is weakened kidnapping laws and the constraint the existed on the State in terms of violating your liberty..

Nothing prevents you if you can't stand insults, from not associating with the person in the free economic regime when you do that.

But what you won't be able to do, is arrest someone, or deprive them to any degree of their property (otherwise called 'a fine'), simply for expressing their opinion.

Hate-speech is not a crime. Threats if credible imminent violence is.

Don't confuse or conflate them. Because the consequences are significant.

Hate speech is entirely irreconcilable with a free society.

Crikey.

Today I learned that hate speech laws lead to kidnappings.

Apparently.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Crikey.

Today I learned that hate speech laws lead to kidnappings.

Apparently.

It's just a small step to mass genocide you know.

 

[Brian_G]

You guys sure do sound like commies sometimes

 

[vigras rojara]

You guys sure do sound like commies sometimes

Does being amused by someone thinking that hate speech laws increase kidnappings make me a commie?

How so?