Capped or uncapped: Which is best?

Why can't we offer both products? Why does it have to be one or the other?
 
Garyvdh said:
Why can't we offer both products? Why does it have to be one or the other?
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Because then the uncapped high users cant't get subsidized by the low users. It wouldn't be sustainable.
 
So the conclusion is simple, the more people we get connected the more feasible uncapped becomes.

And the big gorilla that won't allow this to happen is .................TELKOM with their ridiculous pricing models and high profits!!!!!!!!!!!!

How much more proof do you need ICASA?
 
Garyvdh said:
Why can't we offer both products? Why does it have to be one or the other?
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I think it is really unavoidable that the both capped and uncapped ADSL services will continue to be offered in the foreseeable future. I think the question is whether uncapped services are sustainable – and in fact desirable – and the industry guys seems to have strong views on the matter.
 
TELKOM is still the issue and has always been the issue!

So the conclusion is simple, the more people we get connected the more feasible uncapped becomes.

And the big gorilla that won't allow this to happen is .................TELKOM with their ridiculous pricing models and high profits!!!!!!!!!!!!

How much more proof do you need ICASA?
 
With a company like Mweb buying the bandwidth, it is definately sustainable. They have the customer base for it.

Others I would doubt . Internet Solutions is sustaiable because they shape it down to nothing so everyone gets penalised with IS.
 
Neotel's Chief Sales and Customer Service Officer, Stefano Mattielo said that the reality is that 99% of their subscribers use between 1.5 GB and 2 GB per month, and that there is a place for low-usage accounts in the market.
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As if anyone who actually uses the internet would sign up with Neotrash :rolleyes:
 
I wouldn't know (cries like a baby) - Vodacom sucks my bank account dry ... Fukc 24 month contracts!
 
It is actually shocking to read some of the statements made in this article. Point of broadband is not to be constricted and forced to budget what services one can and in what quantity should be used.
Broadband is there to enable revenue streams for services beyond email and web browsing. Services like Internet radio, video on demand, social networking, music, iptv just to name a few do not fit in this capped model and should not be forced on the users to franticly watch what they consumed. and the average usage figures quoted are directly result of high costs of broadband

point is this, open the market and let the users be free to explore and use their always on high speed connection as it is intended to be used. international bandwidth and connectivity is not an issue any longer so give us a service we pay for!!!
 
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From the summary:

Industry experts debate whether uncapped broadband services are sustainable and what the best route is to follow
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Industry business managers bitch whether uncapped broadband services are sustainable to their current crappy business models and what the best route is to follow to make more money from the masses
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uhm they only use 2 GB cause it's so freaking expensive...
MyBB users has voted with their pockets...and feet.
It's broadband...not Narrowband ffs!
 
nictron said:
So the conclusion is simple, the more people we get connected the more feasible uncapped becomes.

And the big gorilla that won't allow this to happen is .................TELKOM with their ridiculous pricing models and high profits!!!!!!!!!!!!

How much more proof do you need ICASA?
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If your unhappy with the Gorilla the move and make friends with the other monkeys. Switch to Neotel if your unhappy ;)
 
I think it is sustainable - at least for the next couple of years - while most of South Africa isn't "used" to enough internet. But then it should be rolled out quickly and to huge subscriber bases - not just "power users". Basically like MWEB has done. I think it was a mistake coming up with capped from the start, due to the fact that you created a "smaller pool" for power users to use and because you made everybody used to small amounts of data. Now, when they finally roll out uncapped, people might over-react completely and crash the network. Hopefully most of SA isn't quite there yet - in the US they blame the uprise of video on demand and phones like the iPhone that brought bandwidth-intensive applications to the masses in an easy to use fashion.
 
Internet Solutions MD Derek Wilcocks brought a different perspective to the debate, arguing that people always underestimate the demand for bandwidth from customers

Are we being underestimated?
 
If uncapped is cheap enough everyone can use it. Who cares what their usage is.

Also 1.5 gig? Seriously? When I first got my telkom 1 gig account it was finished before the month was over and that was no youtube and no downloads. And now the quality on youtube is so much better. Do you seriously expect us to believe thats all people in Sweden use?
 
Cell C CEO and others don't like the fact that they under pressure to reduce prices. They can claim all they want that small portion accounts have a market and this is perhaps true.. but not at the current cost. And when this is pointed out they will quickly say something like its not feasible to provide at x cost due to overhead.. i.e. they want their cake buttered on both ends. sorry.. people are getting clever and its not gonna last.
 
Geez, did you read all those quotations from ISP CEO's? They sound like they are purposely discouraging uncapped - Sounds like a bunch of greedy Fat Cats who are going to lose a buck or two.

Internet Data usage should be free with only a fee for the connection service. You already paid for the hose pipe, now you must pay for how much water you pump through the hose pipe YOU ALREADY paid for?

Most overseas ISP's are ridiculously cheap on their data tariffs. Capping and charging large amounts of money for Data Usage retards Internet Infrastructure. Squeezing more money out of people for limited resources, instead of expanding infrastructure and providing more resources for everybody for less money, sounds very greedy to me.
 
Neotel's Chief Sales and Customer Service Officer, Stefano Mattielo said that the reality is that 99% of their subscribers use between 1.5 GB and 2 GB per month, and that there is a place for low-usage accounts in the market.
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Cell C CEO Lars Reichelt supported Mattielo, saying that the average monthly data usage in a country like Sweden, where 100 Mbps connections are commonplace and where file sharing service like ThePirateBay resides, is around 1.5 GB per month.
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Oh come on.

3Gb is absolutely nothing in this day and age of the Internet. 5 years back, yes, sure, then 3Gb was realistic. But today 3Gb is not realistic due to the rich media content of some websites.

If you are so afraid of uncapped connections, why not offer your users more cap for less? Simply increase that 3Gb to 10Gb and [-]keep the price the same[/-]drop the price a bit.

This will ensure that your clients won't rush to download every single Parry Hotter movie in one go, but rather curb their use.

Over time people will learn how to use their uncapped accounts, and not just abuse it just to download every single movie there is.

The sub-3Gb capped model is not sustainable anymore - how many people do keep on buying topups and bandwidth booster packs?
 
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