Carling Cup

If I'm correct Ferguson generally maintains a policy of youngsters for the Carling Cup... I guess bringing on Ronaldo, rooney and carrick was out of desperation

Indeed. And that is the only way it makes sense really - as a cup for the youngsters and those that don't get 1st team action.
 
So how do you explain 9 first team players on the pitch. Where are the youngsters>?
 
So how do you explain 9 first team players on the pitch. Where are the youngsters>?

Sometimes their excuses dont make sense, how can you say its "youngsters" when most of the 1st team are on the pitch????
 
BBC commentator just before the game:

1933: "Just arrived at Pride Park... looking forward to seeing Nigel manage the side, but just heard Carlos Tevez is playing up front for United. Looks like a strong side... yikes!"
 
Ben Foster
Rafael
Gary Neville
Jonathan Evans
John O'Shea
Nani
Darron Gibson
Rodrigo Possebon
Anderson
Ryan Giggs
Carlos Tevez

I'd still classify Foster as a second team player and Anderson as a first team player so that leaves 5 second team players and 6 first team players.
Not to harp on about this but United's first choice XI is:

vd Sar

Neville (Id prefer Rafael but hey...)
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra

Ronaldo
Carrick
Fletcher (in the league at least. He has done a decent job there)
Park/Scholes

Berbatov
Rooney


So that's more like one or two first team players. Much like it was last night. ;)
 
Excuses. I counted 6 players from ''your'' first team that played last night. Rafeal is first team. He gets more gametime than Neville.

Bottom line is you lost to Derby :D

A team that is struggling in the championship - they at the bottom of the log.

And your excuse is, it wasnt your first team? LoL

Your THIRD team should be able to beat them.
 
Not to harp on about this but United's first choice XI is:

vd Sar

Neville (Id prefer Rafael but hey...)
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra

Ronaldo
Carrick
Fletcher (in the league at least. He has done a decent job there)
Park/Scholes

Berbatov
Rooney


So that's more like one or two first team players. Much like it was last night. ;)

The team that started last night:

29 Tomasz Kuszczak
22 John O'Shea
15 Nemanja Vidic
21 Rafael
23 Jonathan Evans
18 Paul Scholes
17 Nani
28 Darron Gibson
8 Anderson
32 Carlos Tevez
19 Danny Welbeck

Scholes, Vidic and maybe Rafael are in the 1st 11. Rocket science it is not. :o
 
I think henry needs a lesson in what is classed as a "1st team" and "starting 11".

Over 80% of the players who played lastnight are in the 1st team and would feature in any epl/champs league match.

A non first team (reserve) would be what arsenal played in the carling cup.
 
Not to harp on about this but United's first choice XI is:

vd Sar

Neville (Id prefer Rafael but hey...)
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra

Ronaldo
Carrick
Fletcher (in the league at least. He has done a decent job there)
Park/Scholes

Berbatov
Rooney


So that's more like one or two first team players. Much like it was last night. ;)

*sigh
 
1-0 to Derby FT

Poor result, even for the B team. Should easily turn them over at OT in 2 weeks' time though. Not that it matters.
Again you get owned....:rolleyes:
 
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Vidic, O'Shea, Anderson, Scholes,Nani, Rafael
lets see how old is nani? how old is anderson? how old is rafael...

so effectivelly if you were going to say youngsters then what? Rafael, nani, anderson are not youngsters?

of the team
29 Tomasz Kuszczak
22 John O'Shea
15 Nemanja Vidic
21 Rafael
23 Jonathan Evans
18 Paul Scholes
17 Nani
28 Darron Gibson
8 Anderson
32 Carlos Tevez
19 Danny Welbeck

of united entire team list:

G40 Ben Amos
G12 Ben Foster
G1 Edwin van der Sar
G29 Tomasz Kuszczak
G41 Gary Woods
D6 Wes Brown
D35 Tom Cleverley
D20 Fabio
D21 Rafael
D46 Richard Eckersley
D23 Jonathan Evans
D3 Patrice Evra
D5 Rio Ferdinand
D2 Gary Neville
D22 John O'Shea
D15 Nemanja Vidic
M24 Darren Fletcher
M28 Darron Gibson
M11 Ryan Giggs
M4 Owen Hargreaves
M17 Nani
M8 Anderson
M13 Ji-Sung Park
M34 Rodrigo Possebon
M7 Cristiano Ronaldo
M18 Paul Scholes
M16 Michael Carrick
M Zoran Tosic
F9 Dimitar Berbatov
F26 Manucho
F10 Wayne Rooney
F32 Carlos Tevez
F19 Danny Welbeck

Take out what you call First team players: Who could have played?

G40 Ben Amos
G12 Ben Foster
G41 Gary Woods
D35 Tom Cleverley
D20 Fabio
D46 Richard Eckersley
M28 Darron Gibson
M Zoran Tosic
F26 Manucho

3 Goalkeepers, 3 no exp defenders, 2 midfielders (only one as Zoran is not legable to play) and 1 striker who's only played on foreign tours...

ok fine let "youngsters" that's played in first team... what would you consider young? 17? 21? 25?

D21 Rafael Age 18,
D23 Jonathan Evans Age 21,
M28 Darron Gibson Age 21,
M34 Rodrigo Possebon Age 19,
M8 Anderson Age 20,
F19 Danny Welbeck Age 21,


well that almost makes a full team

fine let the second string team guys also get a run...

M24 Darren Fletcher
D2 Gary Neville
D22 John O'Shea
M13 Ji-Sung Park - well not at the moment he's had more game time...
F32 Carlos Tevez


It's not like Man Utd has a second string team like Chelsea.
 
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Nani and anderson have been playing first team football for years, their age has nothing to do with it (both also play for their countries).

Thats like saying Messi is a youngster and if we play him we playing an in-experienced team.
 
Nani and anderson have been playing first team football for years, their age has nothing to do with it (both also play for their countries).

Thats like saying Messi is a youngster and if we play him we playing an in-experienced team.
well both you and genius argue that united didn't play a second string side... of the list I just posted where else can you get second string?

Do you rate Nani is better than Giggs and should superseed Giggs in the Starting XII?
Do you rate Anderson is better than Scholes, Carrick and Hargreaves?

You keep saying that Nani and Anderson isn't good enough for first team now you change your tune and say they too good to be playing in the Carling Cup... So effectively you implying they should just be bench warmers.
 
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well both you and genius argue that united didn't play a second string side... of the list I just posted where else can you get second string?

Do you rate Nani is better than Giggs and should superseed Giggs in the Starting XII?
Do you rate Anderson is better than Scholes, Carrick and Hargreaves?

You keep saying that Nani and Anderson isn't good enough for first team now you change your tune and say they too good to be playing in the Carling Cup... So effectively you implying they should just be bench warmers.


You missing the point,
80% of the players play in your first team and would play in any champs league/epl game.
80% have played in united's EPL/Champs league matches.

Anderson/nani even though we think are crap players ARE in the first team and play in your uniteds first team.I dont think they should even be in the first team and are over-priced/over-hyped.

There is nothing "2nd string" about the team united put fwrd last-night and even had rooney/ronaldo on at one point.

"2nd string" is the team Arsenal put fwrd in the carling cup, united played a strong team which even the BBC commentator agreed on.
 
well both you and genius argue that united didn't play a second string side... of the list I just posted where else can you get second string?

Do you rate Nani is better than Giggs and should superseed Giggs in the Starting XII?
Do you rate Anderson is better than Scholes, Carrick and Hargreaves?

You keep saying that Nani and Anderson isn't good enough for first team now you change your tune and say they too good to be playing in the Carling Cup... So effectively you implying they should just be bench warmers.

Dude, don't waste your time man. We are right, they are wrong. Tis not worth the effort. Neither is the CC really. But hey, it's another trophy possibility I guess. Gives the guys on the fringes of the team and in the youth setup a chance to get a run out.
 
Funny how Tevez is rated as second string these days :rolleyes:

1st team = players that play in the EPL/CL -

Youngsters - players from the academy, not experienced in 1st team footy.

@ fishfly - you call Nani a youngster and you think he isnt part of the first team? :confused:
 
Hey Genius.

No matter what you say but when you talk about Man Utd .... HenryJ and Fishfly seem to think they're always correct!
 
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