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there's a poll at sport24 asking whether you think caster is male or female. the third option took the words right out of my mind: "This vote disgusts me"
there's a poll at sport24 asking whether you think caster is male or female. the third option took the words right out of my mind: "This vote disgusts me"
did the aussies start this?
The 26 year old record is held Jarmila Kratochvílová, who looks like a man....
Yip! The media, and apparently the Australians, tend to forget that this is a human being we are dealing with. And she is only 18. Keep things like this behind closed doors.
did the aussies start this?
Dad: Caster's my little girl
2009-08-20 11:54Email | Print
All major newspapers' front pages pictured a triumphant Semenya who powered to a 1:55.45 win - the world's best this year - shortly after the athletics governing body announced that the runner's gender was to be verified.
"She is my little girl. I raised her and I have never doubted her gender. She is a woman and I can repeat that a million times," father Jacob Semenya told the popular tabloid Sowetan which dubbed the champion "Our Golden Girl".
"For the first time South Africans have someone to be proud of and detractors are already shouting wolf. It is unfair. I wish they would leave my daughter alone."
Semenya's 80-year-old grandmother Maphuthi Sekgala told The Times that the first year sports science student had long been teased about her boyish looks and for being the only girl in her local soccer team.
"(The controversy) doesn't bother me that much because I know she's a woman - I raised her myself," she said in her rural village in northern Limpopo province.
"She called me after (the heats) and told me that they think she's a man. What can I do when they call her a man, when she's really not a man? It is God who made her look that way."
Semenya's former high school head told the Afrikaans broadsheet Beeld the top runner had played with boys, enjoyed soccer and wore long trousers to school.
"I first realised that she was a girl in Grade 11," he said, explaining how Semenya had moved to stand with a girls team after he had divided the boys and girls for short running race.
Semenya was a total unknown a few weeks ago - with Beeld describing her birthplace as remote and rural, with the teenager living with her grandmother while at high school and growing up without electricity or running water.
The runner's coach Michael Seme laughed off the allegations, saying the athlete fielded constant questions about whether she was a boy from younger athletes when training.
"Then she has to explain that she can't help the fact that her voice is so gruff and that she really is a girl. The remarkable thing is that Caster remains completely calm and never loses her dignity when she is questioned about her gender," Seme told the newspaper.
Semenya had been "crudely humiliated" a few times and the closest Seme said he had seen her to anger was earlier this year when some people wanted her barred from using the ladies restroom.
"Then Caster said: 'Do you want me to pull down my pants that you can see. Those same people came to her later and said they were extremely sorry."
Well I've looked and looked again at the pictures of her and I must say, if it is discovered that she is/was a actually man, I won't be surprised.My sports reporter buddy commented in Divine style: Walks like a man, Talks like a man....![]()
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Damn...what an ugly man-woman-bear-pig-thing. Hasselhoff krulle!The 26 year old record is held Jarmila Kratochvílová, who looks like a man....
Well I've looked and looked again at the pictures of her and I must say, if it is discovered that she is/was a actually man, I won't be surprised.
If she is a woman, I'd have to say that she needs to femine-up a but. I've seen a couple of really butch lesbian types, but there was always something that hinted that it was a woman with manly traits or whatever.
Or Rolling Stone/FHM/GQ/etc.Probably won't be in this years SI swimwear calendar.
To be brutally honest, I would be terrified to see what she was hiding under that green pant.Semenya had been "crudely humiliated" a few times and the closest Seme said he had seen her to anger was earlier this year when some people wanted her barred from using the ladies restroom.
"Then Caster said: 'Do you want me to pull down my pants that you can see. Those same people came to her later and said they were extremely sorry."
If she is a woman, I'd have to say that she needs to femine-up a but.
Because, as it stands, a lot of people, on face value, initially perceive her as being a man and not a woman.Why does she need to feminine-up a bit?
Because, as it stands, a lot of people, on face value, initially perceive her as being a man and not a woman.
Sure, if you are a woman who wants to be perceived as man (like if you are a lesbian and dress/carry/act/talk as a man would), then booyah.
As it stands she wants people to believe and see her as a woman, which is, generally, not happening and is being disputed by an athletics board.
That's fine. You have your opinion, I respect yours. I can however understand where the whole question of what her sex is comes from, regardless of who brought it up....errr...
The way she looks or her being a woman has got nothing to do with the current situation actually.
This is a matter of sex and not gender.
There are so many pics already posted on this forum of other manly women that are even more butch looking.
So i dont think she has to change the way she looks.
That's fine. You have your opinion, I respect yours. I can however understand where the whole question of what her sex is comes from, regardless of who brought it up.
From the little I've read about all gender verification tests, nearly all the suspected athletes also "looked" suspicious. Dora[Hermann] Ratjen, for example.But her looks never played a role in the questioning of the record.
It was her track time in Mauritius that started it all.
But her looks never played a role in the questioning of the record.
It was her track time in Mauritius that started it all.
Yeah.
Funny coming from a nation that cannot even tell the difference between a woman and a sheep.