Change is coming

ECN , ECA, SEACOM, EASSY - those are all just freakin' letters!!! How is that going to make greedy corporations charge less? Afterall, broadband is booming in SA so clearly the cosumers have no problems paying these high prices.

More fibre, more spectrum, new technologies, undersea cables - do you think thost stuff grows on trees? No they cost millions and companies that invest in that will want insane ROI.

Liberalisation will mean that what we pay goes into more pockets - and we will pay more because there is more pockets!!! Who the hell came up with this crazy thought we will pay less?!

Dammit stop it already with these articles or at least get them right. Instead of saying "Change is coming" say "Change is looming". That sounds much more gloom&doom which is exactly where we are heading !
 
Rouxenator said:
ECN , ECA, SEACOM, EASSY - those are all just freakin' letters!!! How is that going to make greedy corporations charge less? Afterall, broadband is booming in SA so clearly the cosumers have no problems paying these high prices.

More fibre, more spectrum, new technologies, undersea cables - do you think thost stuff grows on trees? No they cost millions and companies that invest in that will want insane ROI.

Liberalisation will mean that what we pay goes into more pockets - and we will pay more because there is more pockets!!! Who the hell came up with this crazy thought we will pay less?!

Dammit stop it already with these articles or at least get them right. Instead of saying "Change is coming" say "Change is looming". That sounds much more gloom&doom which is exactly where we are heading !
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dude you're wrong here.

it IS going to be cheaper because there will be competition.

ATM there is no competition because Telkom are the only ones holding the cards. heck, they have the whole deck!

when SEACOM lands, even telkom is gonna lower their prices. if they don't, well, I don't see anything ELSE going for them really.

Prices WILL be lowered. wanna make a bet rouxy ? :p
 
Garyvdh said:
the more fibre and wireless and fixed lines and whatever that gets laid means more local capacity (backhaul). When (and if) Seacom goes live you will have more players trying to feed you that international capacity. More players = more competition. More competition means lower prices. Don't worry by the end of the year there will def. be more competition. We are just tired of waiting for it. We all know it is coming.
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Theres a return on investment issue.
Fibre is alot more expensive than copper, they might save on insurance but they going to need time.

They releasing WImax tomorrow so maybe the new technology will keep tech heads occupied for a while.

More competition doesn always mean more competition... the bigger players wont allow little guys to give good deals when leasing fibre.


I have a Q... Is the too much fibre being layed by the the 3 Telecoms giants, Voda Telkom and now Neotel... ??
 
Keeper said:
atleast 25%.

EDIT: atLEAST.
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A welcome step in the right direction but I would say that is not good enough. Add to that, 25% on what? Will consumers actually see this or is this the international gigabit leases companies pay for the use of submarine cables. If consumers do benefit here which one? Wired dinosaurs using ADSL or tecno weenies like me using wireless. And what about the whole mobile space with HSDPA and what not.

Or are we looking in totally the wrong place and will this be 25% off voice calls being made internationally and nothing to do with consumer data prices?

Look - I would like to believe you and the whole good news vibe as much as any other guy but this is Africa, and to be more specific, South Africa. This is where the consumers are the same as underage wh#res are in Taiwan. IOW - a lot of f#cking is taking place and will continue to because thats just how it is.
 
and if things keep on going they way they are ........ NEVER! :p
 
they are taking babysteps in the pursuit to brainwash us into believing that all the excuses to keep costs as high as possible are valid.
 
Change is coming... wow, have we heard this b4 in so many other posts?

why are we still reading about this, and again, we hear the typical stuff, prices will only drop long after the seacom cable has landed, blah blah blah.

There isn't always light at the end of the tunnel, not in dark africa, its dark in and outside the tunnel.
 
Really stop writing articles like this mybroadband..

or provide us with some actual Facts that you consider are indicators that would result in lower broadband costs.

I can think of a few things I would like to have explained


First: How much Bandwith capacity does the Sat-3/Safe fibre cables have?

Secondly: How much Bandwith can Seacom Carry?


If we knew who the shareholders were of Sat-3/Safe and Seacom we could figure out for ourselves if we are indeed about to be liberalised. Or if we are just in for another crazy ride.

As they say on Wikipedia: SAT-3 charges 50 times what the USA get charged for their fibre links..
 
From Wikipedia regarding SAT-3:

Although Telecom Namibia holds ownership in SAT-3/WASC, Namibia has no landing point. Namibian internet users currently have no access to SAT-3/WASC, because Telecom Namibia would have to purchase capacity from Telkom SA, and due to Telkom SA's high prices has so far refused to do so.
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Telkom - ****ing up other countries when ours is no longer good enough.
 
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