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killadoob said:
Could they(iec) be corrupt? Is that possible?
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If you could guarantee me that IEC officials don't vote or have a preferred party then no, it's not possible... so...
YES IT IS POSSIBLE
Individual human beings work for the IEC...
 
In an ideal world it would be impartial members from another continent. Something like Canadians springs to mind, or perhaps the Swiss.
 
marine1 said:
I wonder how many dead people the ANC will be using to cast their votes this time?
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well, after the ancestors are done being angry at "traitors", i'm sure they will resurrect just enough loyal anc voters to win some areas by 110%
 
killadoob said:
LOL

Thank you for the info, very interesting. So the vast majority of the IEC could be ANC paid people who are counting our votes.

Well that is not worrying at all :eek:
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Each political party sends representatives to watch the vote counting. At the last election I was there representing, and there were about 7 reps witnessing - some from parties I hadn't even heard of. Each ballot paper is held up and every rep has to agree on what the vote says before its counted in. So even of the person counting is favouring a certain party, they can't do much about it.
 
I think this was treated wrong. Instead of a stupid e-mail that sends all old aunties panties into a twist.
The IEC should have made a statement that there are certain things to check on a ballot.

This is just some hysterical person making it seem that we live in Zimbabwe.

IMO.
 
In the same class as the : your light bulbs is going to give you led poisoning.
Or was it mercury?

All and all the same thing. Beware of this beeeg snake it was seen in your neighbourhood. In the meantime it some zoo in Brazil.
 
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If I remember correctly, they actually stamp the thing as they give it to you so it would be kind of obvious if they didn't. You'd be like "hey, how come you didn't stamp mine?".
They'd have to pretty much not stamp an entire voting station's ballots to get away with it. I'm sure someone would notice if it was a major strategy.
A couple of thousand ruined ballots is hardly unusual for an election.
Effective voter fraud would be quite the major operation to coordinate and pull off.
 
I didn't read through the whole thread, but the immediate thing that jumps into my mind is vote fraud on the part of the officials!
Being human, they themselves will have a party affiliation/bias. And, like it or not, voting is still *largely* along racial/geographical lines, so for argument's sake, if you have an PARTY_A-inclined IEC official working in a polling booth in an PARTY_B stronghold area, then perhaps they would often/sometimes/every damn time, accidentally on purpose forget to stamp your ballot?

All the more reason to check your ballot paper and ensure it is stamped.
 
spacemuis said:
I didn't read through the whole thread, but the immediate thing that jumps into my mind is vote fraud on the part of the officials!
Being human, they themselves will have a party affiliation/bias. And, like it or not, voting is still *largely* along racial/geographical lines, so for argument's sake, if you have an PARTY_A-inclined IEC official working in a polling booth in an PARTY_B stronghold area, then perhaps they would often/sometimes/every damn time, accidentally on purpose forget to stamp your ballot?

All the more reason to check your ballot paper and ensure it is stamped.
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Nah im not worried about that.
 
spacemuis said:
I didn't read through the whole thread, but the immediate thing that jumps into my mind is vote fraud on the part of the officials!
Being human, they themselves will have a party affiliation/bias. And, like it or not, voting is still *largely* along racial/geographical lines, so for argument's sake, if you have an PARTY_A-inclined IEC official working in a polling booth in an PARTY_B stronghold area, then perhaps they would often/sometimes/every damn time, accidentally on purpose forget to stamp your ballot?

All the more reason to check your ballot paper and ensure it is stamped.
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There is always more than one official in the voting booth.
Notice the people standing alongside the tent?
They are all from different parties.
And some of them are even international observers.
 
Garyvdh said:
There is always more than one official in the voting booth.
Notice the people standing alongside the tent?
They are all from different parties.
And some of them are even international observers.
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Yes, but in spite of that same presence at the previous general elections the IEC still apparently discounted 1000's of ballots because they were not stamped. Nobody will be able to tell you the reason WHY those ballot papers were not stamped, but if the voters were informed and vigilant enough, then that would not have happened.
A senior IEC offical has confirmed the importance of this check.
 
spacemuis said:
Yes, but in spite of that same presence at the previous general elections the IEC still apparently discounted 1000's of ballots because they were not stamped. Nobody will be able to tell you the reason WHY those ballot papers were not stamped, but if the voters were informed and vigilant enough, then that would not have happened.
A senior IEC offical has confirmed the importance of this check.
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They were not stamped because they were fake ballots. Thank goodness they were thrown out. The system works.
 
My question is, when vote counting is done by IEC officials, are all political party representatives present when that's done? If it's only IEC officials doing the counting and no party officials are present then it's quiet easy to rig elections at the particular polling station.
 
Sly21C said:
My question is, when vote counting is done by IEC officials, are all political party representatives present when that's done? If it's only IEC officials doing the counting and no party officials are present then it's quiet easy to rig elections at the particular polling station.
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The IEC is made up out of volunteers from all parties and all walks of life.
They have taken an oath to be impartial.
But yes, there are other observers present, and methods of checks and balances.
 
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