Chery and Haval real feedback?

WAslayer said:
Chery released a software update for the auto tiggo 4 pro to address fuel consumption.. wife has the manual and sits at around 10L/100km, but she is not a very economical driver.. I can get it down to just under 9L/100km when I am driving.. not great, but when you look at total cost of ownership vs Japanese and German, still winning..
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Pretty embarrassing...Corrola Cross gets 7/L 100km on a 1.8L motor in the city.

Even a car considered "thirsty" in the past such as a Subaru WRX has a 2.4L motor with 203kW vs the 108kW in the tiggo Pro and the WRX achieves 10L/100km in city driving pretty easily on top of the fact that it is an all-wheel drive car vs front wheel drive only on the Tiggo.
 
SauRoNZA said:
It does also speak to popularity.

Like I said above when I need to book my BMW I need to plan at least a week ahead in most cases except oddly when it’s in the festive season, I guess because everyone buggered off on holiday.

And I’m one of those special customers they make a plan for even.
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Sorry but it is hard for me to fault BMW!
 
epah said:
Its is not only the service that has declined from Mercedes, even the quality of their new cars is deplorable. It is a dead brand. Good for you for not getting a new one.
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Exactly. And none of their new cars look interesting as well. The 4 cylinder C63 is an abomination thoough.

It could have definitely passed as a C43. But never as their flagship C63
 
epah said:
Sorry but it is hard for me to fault BMW!
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They are by no means infallible.

Difference is you rock up unannounced with a real issue they sort it out there and then no questions asked and if it’s a big enough problem like I had in the past they give you a courtesy vehicle and send you on your way.

That is something the Chinese brands will still need to learn. Things fail…it’s how you handle them when they do that matters.

Then again they sent an entire crew to my house to come sort out my windscreen issue, so at least during the initial sales process they were pretty good with that.
 
ADrunkTeddyBear said:
Exactly. And none of their new cars look interesting as well. The 4 cylinder C63 is an abomination thoough.

It could have definitely passed as a C43. But never as their flagship C63
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Lets not even discuss the gaudy interiors that look like they were designed by someone from Dubai.
 
epah said:
@Dolby would you be happy having to book in your car two weeks in advance? or would that make you want to smack your iphone on the wall?
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Probably.

Never happened though? I think I phoned Monday and asked if they could take it in Wednesday. Took it in & got it back that afternoon.

Just like my Honda / Toyota / Volvo and Audi
 
Dolby said:
Probably.

Never happened though? I think I phoned Monday and asked if they could take it in Wednesday. Took it in & got it back that afternoon.

Just like my Honda / Toyota / Volvo and Audi
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So to answer my question, you definitely wouldn't be happy with a 2 week wait?
 
Ecco said:
Dealers give you some some leeway if you let them know in advance - but if you like to go over that, its time to start ubering
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So I had an interesting encounter.

Got my Haval just over 45k km +-. Fast forward a year and the 60k service was coming up. Called the dealer near me (with about 400km left until 60k), and they were happy to accomodate me in a short time to stay within the warranty service period. Think I waited 4 days so I was a little over which they said is not a problem...

but here is where the interesting part came. They called me back and informed me that according to their records the vehicle was serviced at 43k km which put me 2000km over my service period. Explained to them the car was not mine then, it didn't come with a service book, and the delivery note I received stated next service 60 314.

They called head office and said everything is still good (warranty and service plan).

I suppose my case is quite exceptional though.
 
acidrain said:
and informed me that according to their records the vehicle was serviced at 43k km which put me 2000km over my service period.
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I’ve heard of these issues before.

And it reminds of one of the things that leaves me scratching my head on the Tiggo 4. The service ‘computer’ is a mere countdown from the km the dealer puts in … and the user can reset it.
 
Another reason why its so hard to move away from my Lexus - call in the morning and can bring in the car on the same day. To be fair not many around, but the service advisors say that even 6 cars a day is busy for them :ROFL:
 
Anyways OP the verdict is dont buy a CCP car, owners claim high fuel consumption, rubbish after sales service, huge depreciation, long wait for spare parts and small constant niggles.
 
acidrain said:
So I had an interesting encounter.

Got my Haval just over 45k km +-. Fast forward a year and the 60k service was coming up. Called the dealer near me (with about 400km left until 60k), and they were happy to accomodate me in a short time to stay within the warranty service period. Think I waited 4 days so I was a little over which they said is not a problem...

but here is where the interesting part came. They called me back and informed me that according to their records the vehicle was serviced at 43k km which put me 2000km over my service period. Explained to them the car was not mine then, it didn't come with a service book, and the delivery note I received stated next service 60 314.

They called head office and said everything is still good (warranty and service plan).

I suppose my case is quite exceptional though.
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The car is surely telling you to bring it in and counting down that 400km? Or were you purely looking at total mileage and getting to 60k?

If it was reset at 43k then it should have triggered at 58,000 (or 1 year from service) so this shouldn't be a customer issue at all.

Whole different story if the car told you to service it and you ignored it for 2000km.
 
epah said:
Anyways OP the verdict is dont buy a CCP car, owners claim high fuel consumption, rubbish after sales service, huge depreciation, long wait for spare parts and small constant niggles.
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No, the verdict is buy a Hybrid and buy it second hand so you save a whole lot of money and get much more car for your money.

Depreciation is all done and dusted.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Very long thread here - https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/threads/2022-haval-h6-hev-enter-the-ccp.1294271/

Overall day to day I'm very happy with the car and won't be letting go of it any time soon. Time will tell, but since it's already 3 years old with 45,000km on it's had a pretty solid run so far.

Haval Paarl was excellent from the sales side and initial purchase, but I've not exactly been enamoured with their workshop at my first and only service so far and will be using another on the next outing.

Overall, one bit of advice I would give anyone is to buy the HEV and not just the petrol models both from a driving experience perspective and of course the average fuel economy on Chinese cars being higher than most.

With that being said if you do want to go petrol don't let the fuel economy be your only guide and consider total cost of ownership over five years rather than just getting hung up on that and buying something else because of it.

A word on that is a mate of mine with a Jolion HEV discovered that bizarrely his car didn't come with Run Flats, which to me is absolutely necessary with these cars considering no spare so keep an eye out for that and make sure it is the case on yours if you do go that way. The factory included tyre slime stuff left a lot to be desired, but Holt's Tyre Weld I think it's called does a fine enough job.
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Surely you are obliged to service it once a year no matter the mileage to keep it in warranty?
 
airborne said:
Surely you are obliged to service it once a year no matter the mileage to keep it in warranty?
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Yes obviously, what in that statement implies that it hadn't been serviced?

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Oh I didn't realise there was another line that was bolded, it needed to be expanded.

First service under my ownership, will go update it. Didn't specifically say it as I figured the person would look at the thread.
 
Neuk_ said:
Neither are correct, buy a Tank Touareg :cool:
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Ha my mate's diesel Touareg cost slightly more than my Haval H6 HEV and while similar mileage was a whole lot older and out of warranty.

Even as a diesel uses way more fuel and has a lot less features and I suspect if something breaks will cost a whole lot more.

It is a very good option in this class of vehicle though.
 
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