Chery and Haval real feedback?

SauRoNZA said:
Ha my mate's diesel Touareg cost slightly more than my Haval H6 HEV and while similar mileage was a whole lot older and out of warranty.

Even as a diesel uses way more fuel and has a lot less features and I suspect if something breaks will cost a whole lot more.

It is a very good option in this class of vehicle though.
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Jokes aside, it depends on needs, like us as a young family of four with a dog, our clothes, baby/toddler stuff, my cycling stuff, etc. the Touareg is a great size. The 3.0 V6 TDi in mine while not the best one fitted is fairly reliable, relatively cheap to maintain, has good consumption for hauling a 2.2 tonne vehicle excl' roof boxes and/or trailers. If you can forego the new tech they are a lot of value for money but I suggest staying away from dealers as Touareg labour rates are ridiculously high even for basic services.
 
Neuk_ said:
Jokes aside, it depends on needs, like us as a young family of four with a dog, our clothes, baby/toddler stuff, my cycling stuff, etc. the Touareg is a great size. The 3.0 V6 TDi in mine while not the best one fitted is fairly reliable, relatively cheap to maintain, has good consumption for hauling a 2.2 tonne vehicle excl' roof boxes and/or trailers. If you can forego the new tech they are a lot of value for money but I suggest staying away from dealers as Touareg labour rates are ridiculously high even for basic services.
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Well all the above applies to the Haval H6.

Difference being the Hybrid will give you more power and average 7.8l/100 without trying.

Touareg likely wins in boot space (under the cover) due to the battery so there are compromises all round.

Also for normal family stuff the tyres on the VW are overkill. At the same time if you are the 4x4 sort it can’t beaten.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Well all the above applies to the Haval H6.

Difference being the Hybrid will give you more power and average 7.8l/100 without trying.

Touareg likely wins in boot space (under the cover) due to the battery so there are compromises all round.

Also for normal family stuff the tyres on the VW are overkill. At the same time if you are the 4x4 sort it can’t beaten.
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Imagine if I bought a Haval, @epah would literally explode, as my wife owns a Chery Tiggo 8 Pro Max 390T.

I can't get away from VW or at least VAG cars, for some valid and some unexplainable reasons, I still own 3 of the things. I would love an electric car for around town or a hybrid to include longer road trips but my Touareg becomes the best vehicle to ever own on the 27th September 2025. So it is staying...
 
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Neuk_ said:
Imagine if I bought a Haval, @epah would literally explode, as my wife owns a Chery Tiggo 8 Pro Max 390T.

I can't get away from VW or at least VAG cars, for some valid and some unexplainable reasons, I still own 3 of the things. I would love an electric car for around town or a hybrid to include longer road trips but my Touareg becomes the best vehicle to ever own on the 27th September 2025. So it is staying...
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What on earth is happening on the 27th?

I’m also a VAG guy believe it or not and I can see myself in an ID Buzz in the future for sure.

I used to love all things DSG, but after this hybrid transmission it’s very hard to go back. It’s still a good box in a sporty car where it kicks with every change, but like you said earlier it depends on needs and day to day that is now just horrendous to even consider.

The diesel is a torque converter though isn’t it?
 
SauRoNZA said:
What on earth is happening on the 27th?

I’m also a VAG guy believe it or not and I can see myself in an ID Buzz in the future for sure.

I used to love all things DSG, but after this hybrid transmission it’s very hard to go back. It’s still a good box in a sporty car where it kicks with every change, but like you said earlier it depends on needs and day to day that is now just horrendous to even consider.

The diesel is a torque converter though isn’t it?
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27th September 2024 - ABSA car finance balance owing equals Zero South African Rands.

I loved the DSG in my Golf R, in my wife's Q3 I hated it combined with the 2.0 TDi. The DSG in my wife's Chery Tiggo 8 Pro Max 390T seems to be pretty good but the engine isn't the most responsive even with 180kW.

Yes, Toaureg's only came with torque converter automatic gearboxes, early were ZF 6 speeds then Aisin 8 speeds and I think they now use ZF 8 speeds.
 
epah said:
The manual is exactly the same, Off the line it feels like it is peppy, but once you go over 50km/h then you realise there is no power, speed increases at a snails pace and forget about accelerating on an incline without having to downshift, you wont go anywhere. However that 4pot is really smooth compared to the 3cyl. Butter smooth.
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Come now, you just have to keep it in the redline :rolleyes:
 
Neuk_ said:
27th September 2024 - ABSA car finance balance owing equals Zero South African Rands.

I loved the DSG in my Golf R, in my wife's Q3 I hated it combined with the 2.0 TDi. The DSG in my wife's Chery Tiggo 8 Pro Max 390T seems to be pretty good but the engine isn't the most responsive even with 180kW.

Yes, Toaureg's only came with torque converter automatic gearboxes, early were ZF 6 speeds then Aisin 8 speeds and I think they now use ZF 8 speeds.
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Those ZF torque converter boxes are very good though and reliable(from what I have heard), ZF factory service in South Africa so a winner all round.
 
SauRoNZA said:
The car is surely telling you to bring it in and counting down that 400km? Or were you purely looking at total mileage and getting to 60k?

If it was reset at 43k then it should have triggered at 58,000 (or 1 year from service) so this shouldn't be a customer issue at all.

Whole different story if the car told you to service it and you ignored it for 2000km.
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To see that, you have to navigate to a different menu on the instrument cluster. I rarely navigate that and keep the standard screen on.

I also only saw now this is how to view alarm details from the vehicle, which service seems to be part of it.
 
epah said:
130nm is not getting you anywhere regardless of RPMs.
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It’s not the size it’s how you use it honeybun, you should know that by now, also at what point the 130nM kicks in because that's really not a bad amount of horses but they probably only start working over 5000rpm.

Edit. I lied, I forgot how big it is, 138nM on a bigger car like that is not enough, it kicks in at 3800rpm which should help it along but the poorly conceived gearing is probably also not helping. Weird they would make it so tired but that explains the generally poor fuel economy, people must be revving the sht out of them to get anywhere.
 
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acidrain said:
To see that, you have to navigate to a different menu on the instrument cluster. I rarely navigate that and keep the standard screen on.

I also only saw now this is how to view alarm details from the vehicle, which service seems to be part of it.
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Jeez that’s terrible. I don’t remember any car in the last 15 years probably…really anything with a digital screen that doesn’t have a service indicator popping up when in range/time of a service.

Mine popped up briefly at 1000km as I recall and then started moaning from 500km onwards every single time you turned it on.

I seem to remember a permanent service light as well, but may be confusing that with the bike.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Jeez that’s terrible. I don’t remember any car in the last 15 years probably…really anything with a digital screen that doesn’t have a service indicator popping up when in range/time of a service.

Mine popped up briefly at 1000km as I recall and then started moaning from 500km onwards every single time you turned it on.

I seem to remember a permanent service light as well, but may be confusing that with the bike.
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Maybe there is one, honestly I don't know for sure and don't recall seeing anything.

I'm not really one for reading manuals and all car functionalities but perhaps I should take a read in the manual to see if there is anything.
 
acidrain said:
Maybe there is one, honestly I don't know for sure and don't recall seeing anything.

I'm not really one for reading manuals and all car functionalities but perhaps I should take a read in the manual to see if there is anything.
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Remind me what car it is? I mean it shouldn't require anything special on your part it should just do it.
 
i have 3 family members who currently own Chinese cars. They love the cars , hate the fuel consumption . Also very happy with the tech compared to their previous german & jap makes .
 
thestaggy said:
I test drove an automatic and I noticed the power deficiency. It accelerated to 60ish km/h no problem, so it felt like it could keep up with traffic, but when I gunned it on an open piece of road it felt lazy. Then again the 4-speed 'box (more old school tech) was likely doing no favours here. I'd imagine a lot of frustrating gear hunting trying to get in and out of traffic.

Overall feels like a budget car (which again, not a problem if they were priced right), but not really at a budget price.
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I have the auto version, the engine needs to be revved to get the power out of it, the auto doesn't let it be revved. It will change to a higher gear as a matter of urgency every time, then refuse to change down again, causing very slow uphill driving.

But it has reasonable fuel consumption regardless how you drive it, and is old school, but still comes with most of the bells and whistles inside. Needs more airbags, and needs traction control. Is a bit unsettled at high speed.
 

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