Chewing gum not allowed

skimread said:
Dental gum good for your health. Smoking not. Huge difference.
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Dude,smokers deal with a lot of restrictions (not saying smoking is good). But shyt,gum? Now unfortunately we get dumb ppl who stick it anywhere.
 
Personally, I think this is a great rule, am glad to see that they are actually enforcing it.

I think they shouldn't just tell you to throw your gum away if they catch you with it, but there should be a spot fine of R200-500 if you are caught. They can stop you at the access control when you are arriving, and tell you to get rid of it, but if you are caught past this point, or departing, with chewing gum, then the fine should become applicable. The only way people will learn, really.

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Bismuth said:
Personally, I think this is a great rule, am glad to see that they are actually enforcing it.

I think they shouldn't just tell you to throw your gum away if they catch you with it, but there should be a spot fine of R200-500 if you are caught. They can stop you at the access control when you are arriving, and tell you to get rid of it, but if you are caught past this point, or departing, with chewing gum, then the fine should become applicable. The only way people will learn, really.

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I agree completely with this. No eating is no eating. You're a big boy, you'll manage without your chewy for a few minutes. There's a good lad.
 
Gum is allowed in airports during scanning, boarding and being in the plane. If I arrive from a flight overseas just to be told at the airport train station gum is not allowed it somehow just doesn't make sense seeing it was allowed on the plane.

There are cameras on the Gautrain so if you stick gum beneath the seats they can heavily fine you so don't punish people who use it to relax. Travelling on public transport and standing in queues can be stressful. Chewing gum is relaxing.

I don't drink or smoke so don't punish me on the only transport in this country that has this stupid rule.
 
Lounger said:
I've seen these 'professionals' do all sorts of things on the trains, like put their feet up, smoke, lie across the seats, spit, graffitti, rip the seats, etc etc..

Lucky to see a guard these days. It used to be common for them to tell idiots off.
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You know we're talking about the Gautrain here?? Security is pretty tight...
 
Bismuth said:
Personally, I think this is a great rule, am glad to see that they are actually enforcing it.

I think they shouldn't just tell you to throw your gum away if they catch you with it, but there should be a spot fine of R200-500 if you are caught. They can stop you at the access control when you are arriving, and tell you to get rid of it, but if you are caught past this point, or departing, with chewing gum, then the fine should become applicable. The only way people will learn, really.

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I bet you wish you were still in school where some teacher or what-not can make all your decisions for you.
 
evilstebunny said:
I bet you wish you were still in school where some teacher or what-not can make all your decisions for you.
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I'm glad that they made, and enforce, the decision for all who use the train. Yes, it is inconvenient, but it ensures that I don't have to encounter some idiot's second hand gum. As for enforcing the rule retrospectively - chances are that they'll only discover the gum long after the miscreants are gone. At that stage it is just about impossible to id the guilty on tape.

Also, the principle of fairness - how can they allow gum, but I'm not allowed to eat a garlic and egg sandwich!? (:sick:)
 
Tacet said:
I'm glad that they made, and enforce, the decision for all who use the train. Yes, it is inconvenient, but it ensures that I don't have to encounter some idiot's second hand gum. As for enforcing the rule retrospectively - chances are that they'll only discover the gum long after the miscreants are gone. At that stage it is just about impossible to id the guilty on tape.

Also, the principle of fairness - how can they allow gum, but I'm not allowed to eat a garlic and egg sandwich!? (:sick:)
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Exactly, look at the condition of the Metrorail, where nothing of the sort is enforced. Not sure on their "Business Express", but there regular trains are not very hygienic.

In any case, as has already been stated, it's not like you are on the train for hours, so go without your gum for awhile. Heck, I bet there was the same outcry when smoking was banned on aircraft, and there smokers go without cigarettes for 12+ hrs in some cases.

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I trip including waiting time from Joburg International can take an hour due to paying, waiting, changing trains, stops and the trip itself.

Total trip during late hours is not as fast as you are believed to think.
 
You guys wouldn't survive a day in singapore...

In singapore gum is banned, you aren't even allowed to have it in your luggage, and you can get fined for chewing gum...
 
zaozzie said:
I trip including waiting time from Joburg International can take an hour due to paying, waiting, changing trains, stops and the trip itself.

Total trip during late hours is not as fast as you are believed to think.
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Ok, so if smokers can wait an hour to have a cigarette, I am sure gum-chewers can wait an hour for their fix.

Singapore has the right idea!.

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Peder said:
You guys wouldn't survive a day in singapore...

In singapore gum is banned, you aren't even allowed to have it in your luggage, and you can get fined for chewing gum...
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Not entirely correct. The ban was lifted for some scenarios such as dental gum like the the OP mentioned he is using.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_ban_in_Singapore


The ban has been partially lifted, as some types of gum are allowable, such as gum chewed for dental health. However, the government refuses to completely lift the ban for the risk of gum littering again.
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Revision of the Act
U.S. President George W. Bush and Singapore Prime Minister Chok Tong Goh sign a free trade agreement in the White House, 6 May 2003. White House photo by Tina Hager.

In 1999, United States President Bill Clinton and Singapore Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong agreed to initiate talks between the two countries for a bilateral free trade agreement (USS-FTA).[5] The talks later continued under the new administration of President George W. Bush. Details of the closed-door negotiations are unknown, but it became apparent that by the final phase of the negotiation in early 2003, there remained two unrelated issues: the War in Iraq and chewing gum.

The Chicago-based Wm. Wrigley Jr. Company enlisted the help of a Washington, D.C lobbyist and of Illinois Congressman Phil Crane, then-chairman of the United States House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Trade, to get chewing gum on the agenda of the United States-Singapore Free Trade Agreement.[6] This caused a dilemma for the Singapore Government. It recognised the health benefits of certain gums, such as a brand of sugar-free gum that contains calcium lactate to strengthen tooth enamel. Sale of this newly categorised medicinal gum was allowed, provided it was sold by a dentist or pharmacist, who must take down the names of buyers.

Soon, the USS-FTA was signed and the ban was revised. "They were tough," Crane said of the talks. Some found it surprising that Wrigley had fought hard on this battle, given the small size of Singapore's chewing market. But the company said it was worth it. "There's many examples in our history of things that may have not made short-term financial sense but was the right thing to do in a philosophical or long-term sense," said Christopher Perille, Wrigley's senior director of corporate communications.
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So I would suggest the OP when visiting his dentist gets a prescription for the dental gum he is using and when security guard hassles him again then show him the prescription. As simple as that.
 
I've noted on one occasion that the security is quite relaxed at night (after 8pm when the last trains are pulling through). I was catching the last train from Sandton to Hatfield on the same night as the Winex event. The Gautrain station was full of drunk and tipsy people ... many of them were drinking , chewing gum and even smoking on the platform in full view of the security guards. I suppose that the guards just realised that it was too much hassle to try to get drunk people to comply, but rules are rules... if it applies to me, it should apply to everybody.
 
KingBel said:
I've noted on one occasion that the security is quite relaxed at night (after 8pm when the last trains are pulling through). I was catching the last train from Sandton to Hatfield on the same night as the Winex event. The Gautrain station was full of drunk and tipsy people ... many of them were drinking , chewing gum and even smoking on the platform in full view of the security guards. I suppose that the guards just realised that it was too much hassle to try to get drunk people to comply, but rules are rules... if it applies to me, it should apply to everybody.
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The problem is people starting from Oliver Thambo. The train has to depart a fixed time so you sit there waiting for it to depart for 20 minutes. Since the train is not moving security guards then like in my case walk around looking for any sign of transgression. It was late at night on Sunday that they told me to remove it from my mouth despite me having it in my mouth before I entered the train.

I have seen prostitutes late at night using the train which is much more off putting than me chewing gum. You can spot a prostute a mile away by the way they dress, look, walk and act.:sick:
 
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