China - Taiwan Developments

[Cosmik Debris]

just like those WMDs that were never in Iraq is merely an "opinion" ... wake up

Ah, back to the go-to default whataboutism when there is no argument - Iraq.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

So if Russia left Ukraine alone and China left Taiwan alone, there would be no war. So who is actually meddling then?

both of them would have ... if USA did too

the root cause ... USA, as per usual

ask Vietnam, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Venezuela, the list goes on

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

I believe that most people here are content with the status quo, and not many are cheering for independence.

I sure hope so, I get an entirely different vibe here though

I almost get the feeling you are cheering for another war.

I'm cheering for the end to all modern wars and a peace that outlasts us for generations to come ... that can only happen if the root cause is addressed (USA imperialism) instead of the symptoms (ISIS, Taiwan, Ukraine, "WMDs" etc)

focusing on the symptoms and ignoring the root cause will only lead to more war, if not Taiwan then somewhere else, guaranteed

 

[wingnut771]

just like those WMDs that were never in Iraq is merely an "opinion" ... wake up

I seem to remember Tony Blair involved with that one too.

 

[wingnut771]

both of them would have ... if USA did too

the root cause ... USA, as per usual

ask Vietnam, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Venezuela, the list goes on

I bet the people of those countries love the USA.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Do you look like winnie the pooh?

fwiw I'm not that fond of honey and the only name from the show I've ever been called is Eeyore, was a hot female giving me that nickname though so there was no protesting from me

... are you by any chance a hot female? I might accept Winnie the Pooh as well if that is the case

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

I seem to remember Tony Blair involved with that one too.

in the role of USA's bitch yes, doesn't address the root cause if you eliminate US lackeys like Blair

though that's more on topic here: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/threads/europe-must-resist-pressure-to-become-‘america’s-followers-’-says-macron.1232911/

 

[BBSA]

I sure hope so, I get an entirely different vibe here though


I'm cheering for the end to all modern wars and a peace that outlasts us for generations to come ... that can only happen if the root cause is addressed (USA imperialism) instead of the symptoms (ISIS, Taiwan, Ukraine, "WMDs" etc)

focusing on the symptoms and ignoring the root cause will only lead to more war, if not Taiwan then somewhere else, guaranteed

If you believes that Russia and China will abandon their expansionist goals solely because the US ignores them, they may be you are operating under a dangerous level of naivety.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

If you believes that Russia and China will abandon their expansionist goals solely because the US ignores them, they may be you are operating under a dangerous level of naivety.

neither country has any expansionist goals, that's that horseshyte fed to you by ... the USA ... the same USA that wants endless war all over the world

the dangerous levels of naivety and complicity are all on your side I'm afraid

 

[BBSA]

neither country has any expansionist goals, that's that horseshyte fed to you by ... the USA ... the same USA that wants endless war all over the world

the dangerous levels of naivety and complicity are all on your side I'm afraid

It's quite amusing to hear someone suggest that Russia and China have no imperialistic tendencies, given recent events. For example, Russia's invasion of a sovereign country is a clear example of its expansionist behavior. Likewise, China's ongoing territorial disputes in the South China Sea with neighboring countries, such as Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia, and its militarization of artificial islands, have led to tensions in the region.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

It's quite amusing to hear someone suggest that Russia and China have no imperialistic tendencies, given recent events

recent events caused by USA

you seem entirely incapable of imagining, realistically, what the situation might have been like without US meddling

if the root cause of something is X, but the symptoms include Y, you can't use Y as your litmus test
you need to predict what Y would have been without X

if you honestly believe it would have been the exact same then fine
I honestly believe it would have been very different

 

[ToxicBunny]

recent events caused by USA

you seem entirely incapable of imagining, realistically, what the situation might have been like without US meddling

if the root cause of something is X, but the symptoms include Y, you can't use Y as your litmus test
you need to predict what Y would have been without X

if you honestly believe it would have been the exact same then fine
I honestly believe it would have been very different

It's always the USAs fault isn't it?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

It's always the USAs fault isn't it?

when the shoe fits ...

not always fwiw, but a hell of a lot more often than many here seem capable of realizing

 

[BBSA]

recent events caused by USA

Is it just your imagination running wild, or maybe you've been reading too much RT.

 

[Kaapie]

Ah, back to the go-to default whataboutism when there is no argument - Iraq.

I used to be irrirated, now I just laugh at the idiocy when I read 'whataboutasim'

Yeah we should not use past behaviour as an indicator.
Someone should tell the justice/legal system that. Forget a felon's past history. Judge him on his suit and tie in court only.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Is it just your imagination running wild, or maybe you've been reading too much RT.

lack of critical thinking on your part does not constitute a wild imagination on my part

maybe you have been watching too much CNN/BBC/take-your-propaganda-pick

 

[BBSA]

lack of critical thinking on your part does not constitute a wild imagination on my part

maybe you have been watching too much CNN/BBC/take-your-propaganda-pick

Ukraine has experienced an invasion by Russian forces, while China has been constructing military installations on artificial islands in disputed waters. These are events that have been widely reported in the media and confirmed by multiple sources.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Ukraine has experienced an invasion by Russian forces, while China has been constructing military installations on artificial islands in disputed waters. These are events that have been widely reported in the media and confirmed by multiple sources.

No.. Its the USAs fault, they made them do it.

 

[wingnut771]

Ukraine has experienced an invasion by Russian forces, while China has been constructing military installations on artificial islands in disputed waters. These are events that have been widely reported in the media and confirmed by multiple sources.

Thank goodness chinese quality is so poor that these islands are falling apart already afaik.

 

[Mirai]

Just a list of some of the more known heart, lung and anti-germ drugs, these things save hundreds of 1000s of lives around the world, every single day:

Amlodipine - US - great blood pressure lowering drug
Captopril - first ACE Inhibitor - US another great blood pressure lowering drug
Losartan and subsequent Angiotensin Receptor blockers - US and Japan - another great blood pressure lowering drug
Carvedilol - US great for failing hearts
Clopidogrel - US - keeps cardiac stents open
Alteplase - US - dissolves clots in strokes and heart attacks
Carbapenem - antibiotic US
Vancomycin - antibiotic US
Aztreonam - antibiotic UK
Clavulanic Acid - antibiotic protector UK
Ceftriaxone - antibiotic UK
Fluconazole - anti fungal drug - UK/US
Salbutamol - opens up airways in asthma - UK

HIV drugs which keep millions of South Africans alive:
Dolutegravir - US/UK/Japan
Tenofovir DF - Czechoslovakia/Belgium/US (made to work by US company)
Lamivudine - Canada
Efavirenz - US
Lopinavir - US

TB drugs (save 1000s of lives in SA alone):
Rifampicin - Italy
Isoniazid - first discovered in Austro-Hungary, later rediscovered by Americans and West Germans
Pyrazinamide - US
Ethambutol - US

Not exactly essential but viewed as such by many:
Sildenafil/Tadalafil - US (many of you guys will need this as you get older to keep your quality of life UP)

People who diss the US (and the West) should know that most of us sooner or later are going to need at least a couple of these drugs, as you get older or if you're unlucky and get a serious infection, you will need at least one of these, to make your day, much much better, often to save your life or keep you alive.