Chinese Tablet Buyers Guide.

FYI any one wanting to buy the m20, teclast has released their updated version of the m20 called the m30 with 4 gig ram and 128rom.

Differences are, 2.5k display, CPU speed upgrade from 2.3 to 2.6, and fully laminated screen now, and type c port, and battery is 7500 mah now.Costs about R50 more, still runs android 8.With the exception of battery and display every thing else is still the same.

Finding these minor revisions pointless, jump between the T20 and T30 makes it a worth while upgrade.I don't understand why the revisions between the m20 and m30 is so meh. Unless you do not have the previous revision its rather pointless and meh. The jump from 1920 to 2.5k is minor as well the 300mhz CPU speed increase.

Only real worth while upgrade is laminated screen, which should provide even better viewing angles as well as outdoor use and finally the screen responsiveness, which was already pretty great to start with.

Would be much better if the upgraded to newer and better CPU/GPU chipset then this incremental nonsense.

For R2576.00 on banggood( stock seems to be in short supply else where) not bad if you don't own a tablet with either the helio x20 x23 or x27.

Personally would have gotten the m30 just for display upgrade over the m20.Oh well I am still happy with the m20 regardless just annoyed this revision wasn't avaible three weeks ago.

I thought I would share the info, for those that might be interested.Just in case M30 4gig/128gig is the only one that was revised the others versions are the old version and not worth it unless they are significantly cheaper.Seems stores are pushing the old m20 4gig/128gig stock perhaps keep an eye out for a good deal on them.Still the best bang/value tablet you will find with a 128gig ROM.Seriously don't know how they are able to sell 128rom tablet for so cheap the tablet sports an 5.1 emmc which hardly a slow poke.

One thing I will add definitely would like to see a light sensor on their other tablets as well, I have that on my lg k9 which has the Qualcomm snapdragon 425 and honestly makes a huge difference with battery life and adjusting to the perfect brightness level.Irony is the phone costs about the same when first released as the m20. Pretty happy with that as well.
 
wizardofid said:
FYI any one wanting to buy the m20, teclast has released their updated version of the m20 called the m30 with 4 gig ram and 128rom.

Differences are, 2.5k display, CPU speed upgrade from 2.3 to 2.6, and fully laminated screen now, and type c port, and battery is 7500 mah now.Costs about R50 more, still runs android 8.With the exception of battery and display every thing else is still the same.

Finding these minor revisions pointless, jump between the T20 and T30 makes it a worth while upgrade.I don't understand why the revisions between the m20 and m30 is so meh. Unless you do not have the previous revision its rather pointless and meh. The jump from 1920 to 2.5k is minor as well the 300mhz CPU speed increase.

Only real worth while upgrade is laminated screen, which should provide even better viewing angles as well as outdoor use and finally the screen responsiveness, which was already pretty great to start with.

Would be much better if the upgraded to newer and better CPU/GPU chipset then this incremental nonsense.

For R2576.00 on banggood( stock seems to be in short supply else where) not bad if you don't own a tablet with either the helio x20 x23 or x27.

Personally would have gotten the m30 just for display upgrade over the m20.Oh well I am still happy with the m20 regardless just annoyed this revision wasn't avaible three weeks ago.

I thought I would share the info, for those that might be interested.Just in case M30 4gig/128gig is the only one that was revised the others versions are the old version and not worth it unless they are significantly cheaper.Seems stores are pushing the old m20 4gig/128gig stock perhaps keep an eye out for a good deal on them.Still the best bang/value tablet you will find with a 128gig ROM.Seriously don't know how they are able to sell 128rom tablet for so cheap the tablet sports an 5.1 emmc which hardly a slow poke.

One thing I will add definitely would like to see a light sensor on their other tablets as well, I have that on my lg k9 which has the Qualcomm snapdragon 425 and honestly makes a huge difference with battery life and adjusting to the perfect brightness level.Irony is the phone costs about the same when first released as the m20. Pretty happy with that as well.
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Are you happy with your purchase? I am thinking about getting a contract from for example Cell C or Telkom Mobile. Telkom has the Huawei MediaPad M5 lite and the Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2019) both of which get some good reviews. Any ideas? Or would it be better to go gearbest / Teclast M30 (https://www.gearbest.com/phone-call-tablets/pp_009905781231.html?wid=1433363)? - Damnit, why couldn't it be black...
 
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Prawnapple said:
Are you happy with your purchase? I am thinking about getting a contract from for example Cell C or Telkom Mobile. Telkom has the Huawei MediaPad M5 lite and the Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2019) both of which get some good reviews. Any ideas? Or would it be better to go gearbest / Teclast M30 (https://www.gearbest.com/phone-call-tablets/pp_009905781231.html?wid=1433363)? - Damnit, why couldn't it be black...
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I am entirely anti devices on contract, With devices it is 36 months on average, Huawei has 3/32gig rom, while decent chipset, for the price honestly no. I don't buy samsung period.

The m30 you have linked is the old version as far as I am aware.

This is the new updated version, and is a R100 odd more then the one you listed. Personally I don't like the shipping method, higher value items I prefer expedited shipping.

www.banggood.com

Teclast M30 X27 10 Core 4G RAM 128G ROM 10.1" 2.5K Screen Android 8.0 OS 4G Phablet Tablet PC

Only US$171.99, buy best teclast m30 x27 10 core 4g ram 128g rom 10.1
www.banggood.com www.banggood.com


I see gearbest added the updated M30, but out of stock, don't mind the price, will change once in stock

Honestly I wouldn't settle for less then 4gig/ram and 64/128gig rom, consider the Teclast T30.

Sure the M5 lite is nice, google play certification is going to be an issue, not sure about local stock, but on gearbest it comes without google. Samsung has annoying bloatware and for the price doesn't offer particular value for money as it is exponentially more expensive then it should be even thought the hardware is great.

Honestly you will need to sit down and decide what you want out of the tablet. The helio and P series chipsets is going to be slower then the samsung and huawei, not remarkably slower but there is a fair gap. managed to play the newest need for speed game on the M20 and it ran butter smooth.

Helio X series and P series has nothing to be ashamed off.Knowing that samsung and huawei charge a bit more then they should.I have nothing bad to say about midrange tablets, they really do offer great value and best bang for buck.

To decide what you want start looking at performance, battery life and screen type and resolutions, and choose what you can live with and make a choice based on that. I wouldn't get a device on contract, sticking to sim only makes a huge difference in the long run as you can get a better deal with sim only.
 
wizardofid said:
I am entirely anti devices on contract, With devices it is 36 months on average, Huawei has 3/32gig rom, while decent chipset, for the price honestly no. I don't buy samsung period.

The m30 you have linked is the old version as far as I am aware.

This is the new updated version, and is a R100 odd more then the one you listed. Personally I don't like the shipping method, higher value items I prefer expedited shipping.

www.banggood.com

Teclast M30 X27 10 Core 4G RAM 128G ROM 10.1" 2.5K Screen Android 8.0 OS 4G Phablet Tablet PC

Only US$171.99, buy best teclast m30 x27 10 core 4g ram 128g rom 10.1
www.banggood.com www.banggood.com


I see gearbest added the updated M30, but out of stock, don't mind the price, will change once in stock

Honestly I wouldn't settle for less then 4gig/ram and 64/128gig rom, consider the Teclast T30.

Sure the M5 lite is nice, google play certification is going to be an issue, not sure about local stock, but on gearbest it comes without google. Samsung has annoying bloatware and for the price doesn't offer particular value for money as it is exponentially more expensive then it should be even thought the hardware is great.

Honestly you will need to sit down and decide what you want out of the tablet. The helio and P series chipsets is going to be slower then the samsung and huawei, not remarkably slower but there is a fair gap. managed to play the newest need for speed game on the M20 and it ran butter smooth.

Helio X series and P series has nothing to be ashamed off.Knowing that samsung and huawei charge a bit more then they should.I have nothing bad to say about midrange tablets, they really do offer great value and best bang for buck.

To decide what you want start looking at performance, battery life and screen type and resolutions, and choose what you can live with and make a choice based on that. I wouldn't get a device on contract, sticking to sim only makes a huge difference in the long run as you can get a better deal with sim only.
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Thanks a ton for the response. I would mostly be using the tablet to read with and maybe play the odd game or two. Would you rather order the T30 or the M30 and from Gearbest or from Banggood?
 
Prawnapple said:
Thanks a ton for the response. I would mostly be using the tablet to read with and maybe play the odd game or two. Would you rather order the T30 or the M30 and from Gearbest or from Banggood?
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T30 if I had the money P series chipset is faster. M30 if on a budget. I haven't used banggood, shipping method looks to be SAPO, which I would avoid at all costs. If you going to read large PDF's T30, if normal ebooks the M30/M20.
PDF's are sluggish on the helio series in general pending the document size.

Both have reader modes and night reader blue light functionality.

T30 once it starts shipping, with expedited shipping, you should have it in 10 days.

Definitely the T30. You should also be aware that it's unlikely that you will get android updates. Android 8 is decent enough that it shouldn't be a problem. Battery life on the teclast tablets are actually pretty decent, the tablets are a bit heavy due to the metal body, which actually makes them quite sturdy.If you going to do a lot of reading Both the T30 and M30 have laminated screens
 
wizardofid said:
T30 if I had the money P series chipset is faster. M30 if on a budget. I haven't used banggood, shipping method looks to be SAPO, which I would avoid at all costs. If you going to read large PDF's T30, if normal ebooks the M30/M20.
PDF's are sluggish on the helio series in general pending the document size.

Both have reader modes and night reader blue light functionality.

T30 once it starts shipping, with expedited shipping, you should have it in 10 days.

Definitely the T30. You should also be aware that it's unlikely that you will get android updates. Android 8 is decent enough that it shouldn't be a problem. Battery life on the teclast tablets are actually pretty decent, the tablets are a bit heavy due to the metal body, which actually makes them quite sturdy.If you going to do a lot of reading Both the T30 and M30 have laminated screens
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Thanks a lot. Appreciate the response - It will definitely be T30 or M30 then :)
 
wizardofid said:
T30 if I had the money P series chipset is faster. M30 if on a budget. I haven't used banggood, shipping method looks to be SAPO, which I would avoid at all costs. If you going to read large PDF's T30, if normal ebooks the M30/M20.
PDF's are sluggish on the helio series in general pending the document size.
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For me reading large PDF's is important, esp scanned PDF's. Which is why I prefer a 12" 2.5K display. The M30 is 10.1". But at that price...also note that BG has it through SA Direct (Buffalo) and a coupon of BGTM30149P will drop the price to R2273.

So tempting, but I have two perfectly working tablets, 8.9" FHD and 9.7" 1536x2048. Don't know how well the 2.5K display would compare to my 2016 tech tablet, they render okay. Main priority is fast PDF rendering at high res and screen size. If I could get rid of these 2 at a reasonable price it would be well worth it.
 
Vis1/0N said:
For me reading large PDF's is important, esp scanned PDF's. Which is why I prefer a 12" 2.5K display. The M30 is 10.1". But at that price...also note that BG has it through SA Direct (Buffalo) and a coupon of BGTM30149P will drop the price to R2273.

So tempting, but I have two perfectly working tablets, 8.9" FHD and 9.7" 1536x2048. Don't know how well the 2.5K display would compare to my 2016 tech tablet, they render okay. Main priority is fast PDF rendering at high res and screen size. If I could get rid of these 2 at a reasonable price it would be well worth it.
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Pending the specs of those tablets.Mali T880 MP4 kicks ass and takes names it's a class 4 gpu compared to the T720 of the previous gen which falls in the class 5 and 6, and is only marginally faster then the mali 400.

Make no mistake the T880 renders PDF's just fine, scrolling between pages, is where there is a slight delay, nothing like turn a page and wait 5 seconds for it to be rendered type of thing, Just a slight stutter between page turns, some people want absolutely smooth page movement, some can wait the one or two seconds for the page to load.

I multi tasked with a large PDF open, and chrome browser with 4 tabs in split screen mode, works fine and smooth, things start to slightly stutter, the more apps you have cached in the memory, nothing show stopping.

If you worried about pixel density as far as I am aware both the T30 and M30 have a 300 PPI. Even the M20 has like 280, zero pixelation at all also, colors are quite decent, with decent flesh tones, black and whites also pretty decent.

Your playboy PDF collection should work just fine..........Might cause some rhythm issues.......... :P
 
wizardofid said:
M30 4gig/128rom is in stock again. R2519.10 Bargain and R50 cheaper then the M20.

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Banggood has it also (like mentioned above), the specs are slightly different in battery and speed values.

Banggood Teclast M30

Any comments will be appreciated.

I have ordered the Banggood one yesterday and thanks to the posted coupon by @Vis1/0N in post #145 it was very good price.
Many thanks to @Vis1/0N and @wizardofid for your excellent advice in this thread which made up my mind to order the M30.
 
Stokstert said:
Banggood has it also (like mentioned above), the specs are slightly different in battery and speed values.

Banggood Teclast M30

Any comments will be appreciated.

I have ordered the Banggood one yesterday and thanks to the posted coupon by @Vis1/0N in post #145 it was very good price.
Many thanks to @Vis1/0N and @wizardofid for your excellent advice in this thread which made up my mind to order the M30.
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No problem the thread sort of evolved. I have changed to the thread title to Chinese Tablet Buyers Guide.

I think that it is rather appropriate instead of letting the thread die. Not aware of any specific thread related to Chinese tablets.While we do have the gearbest thread and hardware thread, a specialty thread dealing with Chinese tablets is nice considering the crap tablets we get here, if samsung, huawei and lenovo doesn't float your boat.

Chinese tablets have come along way in recent times, definitely worth considering what they have on offer.


As for the thread we definitely need to look at adding some more info, for example, LTE/3G/2G/GSM bands supported by devices doesn't always mean it will work here, as well as add a list of tablets worth buying ect.

Seriously I can't recommend the M20 and M30 enough. While it will be stupid for me to get the M30 as there isn't much gain for me from the M20. I am still slightly pissed I missed out on the M30 by 2-3 weeks, I will definitely look at what the next version brings to the tablet, hopefully a P series mediatek chipset, which should be awesome.



M30 from banggood and Gearbest is one and the same, gearbest just messed up the listing.
 
Okay so some thing interesting happened. As far as I am aware the M20 uses the helio x23 CPU that is what it says according to both gearbest website and the teclast website.When I tested out the tablet initially I loaded a CPU-Z took a screenshot and that was that.

After some researching tonight I am puzzled I tried several different system informational programs and some web searches revealed that x23 is shown as MT6797D and X27 as MT6797X.

CPU-z and several other programs all show that the tablet I have has the helio X27 however it is only clocked at 2.3ghz as one would expect. Some more research points that x27 can be clocked upto 2.6ghz, 2.6 GHz isn't the default speed for the CPU.

Even stranger is that the other 2 clusters show max speed of 1.85ghz which is inline with x27, x23 the other 2 clusters are clocked at 1.4ghz.What are the odds that both well respected programs are wrong.?

Just find it quite interesting did teclast make a mistake on their own website or on the Assembly line considering the chipsets are exactly the same with the exception of speed.Regardless will have to run anutu as this will give a good indication whether or not there is a difference in score x23 scores 90 000 and x27 scores 9600.

I find this quite fascinating will be impressed if indeed correct as the x27 has a higher clocked gpu as well.


I think reporting software might be wrong.Odly enough on the x27 on the other two CPU cluster is should be reporting 2 GHz on the one cluster and 1.6 on the other.In my case it is showing both cluster at 1.85ghz dont understand how cpu-z is getting it wrong if it is indeed wrong I mean the chipset has been around for at least two years.

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That MediaTek Helio X27(MT6797X) is also listed for the Teclast M30 at 2.6 GHz

Link for Teclast M30
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Yeah X27 definitely, just think the software is unable to detect the proper CPU,/

I am curious to see what guys with the X27 post on antutu.

Regardless the 99512 score is pretty good, considering this is also an updated version from last year, and slightly faster then that version which posted a score of 90K.

The score is within spitting distance of the snapdragon 650 and beats the snapdragon 610 entirely.
 
wizardofid said:
Yeah X27 definitely, just think the software is unable to detect the proper CPU,/

I am curious to see what guys with the X27 post on antutu.

Regardless the 99512 score is pretty good, considering this is also an updated version from last year, and slightly faster then that version which posted a score of 90K.

The score is within spitting distance of the snapdragon 650 and beats the snapdragon 610 entirely.
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I really wish the M30 came in black as well :/ White around the edges when reading... not so sure if it's be that great.
 
@wizardofid You say you're happy with the M20? I am considering it as it's black and the M30 is grey/white - I am hoping to get myself a black tablet so reading on it will be easier on the eyes. Do I really need a high rom like 64 or 128Gb or can I get away with less? I am at this point almost exclusively going to use it to read with. Maybe a game or 2 of course. Any recommendations on somewhere between R1700 - R2500 or would you stick to the T30? Not sure if I can wait that long lol. I'm also a bit sceptical about getting something brand new that hasn't launched yet. For example, there might be an issue with it and all the defective ones may need to be recalled or something. I'm just being cautious as I've almost always purchased known brand names.
 
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