Chippy Shaik 'was paid $3m'

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Well now, always had the feeling that this whole arms deal saga was going to get a lot worse before it got better.
Chippy Shaik, former head of government acquisition in the arms deal and brother of convicted fraudster, Schabir Shaik, was paid a $3m (about R21 million) bribe by one of the arms deal bidding companies, Germany's on-line newspaper Spiegel reported on Sunday.

According to the newspaper internal documents of Thyssen Krupp - a German company that supplied South Africa with war corvette ships - has revealed that Shaik had requested the bribe in 1998.

The company deposited the money to a non-existing company in London in 2000.

What is Thabo hidding?
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,9294,2-7-1442_2064232,00.html
 
Thabo's got a lot to hide, as does the rest of the government it seems. I wonder how far up the rot extends?
 
Any1 remember the events at the time of the Heath SIU being disbanded? Any1 remember what Heath had to say about the rot?
 
Oh hell, old T-Bone, will continue to suffer from severe bouts of amnesia, that's what happens when you imbibe copius amounts of Scotland's finest.

<hey T-Bone, Chippe has the next round!>
 
So it seems a lot of officials got a nice Mercedes out of the deal too. I'll bet they are all scanning the internet to see if their names pop up :D
 
Just read these

Any1 remember the events at the time of the Heath SIU being disbanded? Any1 remember what Heath had to say about the rot?

There was quite a buzz when the Heath SIU was shut down...
I remember they apparently didn't see eye to eye with the president...
http://www.dispatch.co.za/2001/01/27/southafrica/AMBEKI.HTM
Setsetse said Maduna discussed Lubbe and Kahn's report, which is dated January 18, with Mbeki that day. Mbeki announced Judge Willem Heath and his SIU's exclusion from the probe the next day.

Setsetse said Maduna had told Mbeki during the January 18 discussion that there was no need for an SIU to investigate the allegations because Auditor-General Shauket Fakie, National Director of Public Prosecutions Bulelani Ngcuka, Public Protector Selby Baqwa and the Office of the Investigating Directorate: Serious Economic Offences were able to investigate the allegations.

http://www.dispatch.co.za/2001/01/25/southafrica/BACCOUNT.HTM
CAPE TOWN -- President Thabo Mbeki yesterday defended his decision to exclude the Heath Special Investigating Unit (SIU) from the probe into the controversial R43billion arms deal, while Parliament's watchdog public accounts committee met to thrash out internal differences.

Addressing journalists in Pretoria, Mbeki said government had no regrets about the way in which it had handled the matter.

"I don't believe that Judge (Willem) Heath and his unit would have handled this thing properly." ...

...In November last year the public accounts committee (Scopa) recommended that a meeting of at least four agencies take place to discuss a possible multi-pronged investigation into the arms deal.

At that meeting the committee called for the probe to be undertaken by the SIU, the Public Protector, the Auditor-General and the Investigating Directorate of Serious Economic Offences.

However, Mbeki refused to sign a proclamation to include Heath in the arms investigation.
Scopa agreed in a special meeting yesterday to set up a sub-committee to find consensus on the arms deal probe.

The sub-committee was expected to clarify the different perceptions of what Scopa had proposed to Parliament, especially whether the Heath unit should be part of the investigation.

ANC MPs reiterated they believed the resolution, and a subsequent Scopa meeting in Pretoria on November 13, had not singled out any agency for inclusion.

However, committee chairperson Dr Gavin Woods insists the inclusion of Heath was backed by all parties in the committee.
 
They have been trying to sweep this one under the carpet for years, the local press seem to be under some sort of pressure not to cover it
 
We just have to look at some of the equipment that was bought to know bribes were paid... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Hawk trainer was not the best or anywhere NEARLY the cheapest around (actually I think it was the most expensive) but we still bought them...
 
So it seems a lot of officials got a nice Mercedes out of the deal too. I'll bet they are all scanning the internet to see if their names pop up :D
Historically arms deals have always been the most corrupt of all.

Simple search: BAE contract bribes

Blair crushed a bribery inquiry just a few weeks ago (into BAE.)

Britain rebuked for dropping bribe inquiry
By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent
Published: 19 January 2007
Tony Blair suffered a humiliating rebuke from an international financial watchdog after it condemned the Government's decision to abandon a fraud inquiry into a ÂŁ40bn arms deal with Saudi Arabia.


Another gem:

In the race to win contracts, BAE built a tangled web of relationships with South African officials, particularly Mr Modise.

BAE acknowledges that it paid tens of millions of pounds in secret commissions to win the ÂŁ1.5bn contract. The arms company originally intended to pay 12% of the contract price in commissions but agreed to cut that back to 7% - more than ÂŁ100m - following questions from the British authorities underwriting the deal.

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Details of the investigation emerged soon after the UK government abruptly halted an SFO inquiry into alleged bribes paid by BAE to Saudi royals. Tony Blair claimed Britain's security would be endangered if the investigation continued, prompting criticism that the Saudi regime had blackmailed the British government and that BAE was above the law.
Arms deal investigators probe BAE payments to South African Jan 6, 07

(seems the blair government the scotland yards finest haven't been agreeing much lately) :D
 
Ok answer me this, who was in charge when the arms deal was started...mandela...who was his second in charge...thabo.....Hmmmm. Now i doubt Mandela would have anything to do with this. But Thabo seems to be ducking and covering. Letting someone else take the blast.
 
hope you right marine1, and the truth shall set u free :0)

on the other hand, can the country afford/handle the truth. Would it impact upon FDI?
 
You know the funniest thing, the whole world knows what is happening here. We seem to be the only idiots that dont know what our gvt cronies are really up to. The whole system here is crashing at a rapid rate and people here are making too much money to see or care. Their heads are up the rear ends.

I wonder how many people here know about all the Muslim Al Q operatives have been caught here in the last 2 yrs ? I think if you knew you would have left here a long time ago.

ANC associates itself with anything morally incorrect.
 
It really bugs me to think that I am sweating to pay tax so that someone at the top can collect a nice fat cheque just for for awarding a tender with my money.

Why should I not benefit from that deal?
Or... why should the unemployed, destitute, ill, etc. etc. not benefit from it?
Part of our tax money should be for some sort of insurance for when we find ourselves in a situation that we cannot support ourselves or family...
How come some countries can have such advanced social support systems for deserving people... or great retirement prospects at least.
 
Damn, there should be a TRC for the Arms Deal. I doubt anything will reconcile though.

I think the Shaik's should have a family "cleansing ritual".
 
lol at the time of the Schabir Shaik trial Gareth Cliff discussed it on 5fm and Chippy phoned in talking about how his brother is innocent and being framed.
 
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