City Power Implementing 'Load Limiting'

My question is, when are they going to start doing the load limiting. We have had our meter for 1 month now but they havent done it.
 
Rickster said:
My question is, when are they going to start doing the load limiting. We have had our meter for 1 month now but they havent done it.
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They spoke about this on 702 the other day. There are many meters that is installed, but have not been updated on City Power systems as yet. Lets say 90 000 installed for example, but only 50 000 have been loaded so far on their system. So until your meter is updated and goes live on their system, they also will still send someone to read your meter, instead of the meter sending your usage through to them remotely. Once updated, then they will get your readings automatically and your load limiting function will start to work.
 
The funny thing is I know there has been a form of load limiting in Fourways for years now, they have those "Eddies" they display your current draw in real time, then start to beep if the local grid is under pressure, and you're using more than allowed at a specific time, after 5 minutes of beeping it'll cut your power and you'll need to send an SMS to turn it back on

And this is an Eskom system, so I hope this whole on and off rubbish CoJ is suggesting turns out not to be the case, and they rather make the in door unit beep like you're running low on credits or something
 
It is the case, it's real and happening right now.
 
Sinbad said:
Well, if my area is not scheduled for load shedding, then I would expect the fscking power to be on and to be able to live my life normally using the service I pay for! If my area IS scheduled for load shedding, I'd make a plan for food and fire up the generator for everything else.
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+1

Its surprising that council doesn't see the effects of constantly turning things on and off, they've all got a lot of goodies that are going to need replacing, and hopefully not at the tax payers expense
 
Segg said:
+1

Its surprising that council doesn't see the effects of constantly turning things on and off, they've all got a lot of goodies that are going to need replacing, and hopefully not at the tax payers expense
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Who else will carry the expense?
 
Well, happened to us again last night. I'm gonna assume there's something wrong with a lot of the meters because you either have power or no power for the entire duration of the "emergency period."

The power dropped the first time so I switched everything off except the stove and a light as we were cooking. No matter what, the power cycled every 15 seconds or so for about 2 minutes. Even 1 light was apparently too much for the new system :confused:

Only at 10:00pm did the power come back on and not go off at all.

They might think that they are load limiting, but for a lot of households in our neighborhood, its permanent load-shedding during the emergency period.
 
BradleyKZN said:
Well, happened to us again last night. I'm gonna assume there's something wrong with a lot of the meters because you either have power or no power for the entire duration of the "emergency period."

The power dropped the first time so I switched everything off except the stove and a light as we were cooking. No matter what, the power cycled every 15 seconds or so for about 2 minutes. Even 1 light was apparently too much for the new system :confused:

Only at 10:00pm did the power come back on and not go off at all.

They might think that they are load limiting, but for a lot of households in our neighborhood, its permanent load-shedding during the emergency period.
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Do you have a CIU for your meter? And did you check what your usage was?
 
Sinbad said:
Do you have a CIU for your meter? And did you check what your usage was?
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It says 0 KW/H the entire time due to the fact that the power cycles too quickly and the meter doesn't change fast enough. It also throws around 15000 KW/H and 28000 KW/H, but im assuming thats for the whole suburb/neighbourhood
 
For once I am so glad that my power comes directly from Eskom. My heart bleeds for those who face 30 second electricity drops 15 times in 5 minutes - surely this can not be good for any equipment.

Eskom / City Power should really continue with the LED light roll-out - this was a great campaign and dropped consumption dramatically. I rather have no electricity than my equipment power-cycling every 30 seconds - not an issue for all computer kit as it is on UPS, but this can't be good for things like fridges/freezers etc.
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
For once I am so glad that my power comes directly from Eskom. My heart bleeds for those who face 30 second electricity drops 15 times in 5 minutes - surely this can not be good for any equipment.

Eskom / City Power should really continue with the LED light roll-out - this was a great campaign and dropped consumption dramatically. I rather have no electricity than my equipment power-cycling every 30 seconds - not an issue for all computer kit as it is on UPS, but this can't be good for things like fridges/freezers etc.
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Your UPS will let the magic smoke out eventually too :(
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
For once I am so glad that my power comes directly from Eskom. My heart bleeds for those who face 30 second electricity drops 15 times in 5 minutes - surely this can not be good for any equipment.

Eskom / City Power should really continue with the LED light roll-out - this was a great campaign and dropped consumption dramatically. I rather have no electricity than my equipment power-cycling every 30 seconds - not an issue for all computer kit as it is on UPS, but this can't be good for things like fridges/freezers etc.
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The article states that your lights will go out, I wonder if they hook the meter's warning up to your light breakers on your DB board, or just your main breaker :D
 
Pilgrim said:
The article states that your lights will go out, I wonder if they hook the meter's warning up to your light breakers on your DB board, or just your main breaker :D
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No.
They just shut your power down completely.
 
Pilgrim said:
The article states that your lights will go out, I wonder if they hook the meter's warning up to your light breakers on your DB board, or just your main breaker :D
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Lights = electricity. A co-worker told me, that last night he watched how the load-limiting worked and his house turned into a "disco" with power dropping every 30 seconds. A true joke the way this is done as it will destroy plenty of equipment or reduce the lifetime of electronics with COJ not being accountable for it.

I am wondering what the legal aspects are. Surely users must have received a change of TOS or had to sign something as part of this change or is this just done without consulting with customers?
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
Lights = electricity. A co-worker told me, that last night he watched how the load-limiting worked and his house turned into a "disco" with power dropping every 30 seconds. A true joke the way this is done as it will destroy plenty of equipment or reduce the lifetime of electronics with COJ not being accountable for it.

I am wondering what the legal aspects are. Surely users must have received a change of TOS or had to sign something as part of this change or is this just done without consulting with customers?
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Can't believe that people can be so stupid.

Just boggles the mind.
 
I have just asked my insurance broker regarding damages caused by load-limiting (I am not affected as I am with Eskom). In December a load-shedding surge blew up our TV (Sony 46" which cost 30K in 2008) and was then replaced by Santam with a 55" Samsung 3d LED, and they had zero issue with this.

BTW found this - there was already a ruling by the PP:
Last September public protector Thuli Madonsela upheld a claim of R18 000 by a Cape Town woman against the City of Cape Town. Her household appliances were destroyed during a power failure caused by cable theft.

The woman had claimed that in early 2011, several appliances, including a laptop, a phone charger, a fridge, a microwave oven, a telephone charger, a washing machine, and an energy saving light bulb were either destroyed or damaged as a result of an electrical power surge.

The city’s insurance department had rejected her claim.

The City of Cape Town said since it had “no control” over criminal activities, it could not be held accountable for negligence and therefore was not liable for the damage.

But Mandonsela found that the failure to maintain the sub-station amounted to maladministration.

She said that because such acts were a common occurrence in the area it was something the council could and should have foreseen and addressed.
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