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Why would you want to put an acid on your panels?I was thinking a bucket of water with diluted vinegar and a soft sponge
Followed up with maybe some window cleaner sprayed onto a microfiber cloth (rather than soaking the panel in the stuff)
I live on the coast, my panels are in line with the sea and frequently savage on-shore winds.Why would you want to put an acid on your panels?
That's what you would use in the kitchen and bathroom to combat germs, your panels may have plenty of them from decomposing hadeda poop, but germs do not affect performance. You have to bear in mind that the mounting structure possibly has some galvanic corrosion already going on, using an acid would probably accelerate it.
Personally, I have never had the need to use any detergent. For hadeda poop and anything else that is firmly stuck, leave it to soak and come back to it after a while, it does get softer after multiple tries.
I have probably washed mine 4x in the past 3.5 years, never needed anything harsher than water under mild pressure.
OK, so you're assuming that the wind is bringing in alkaline sea water, and therefore the diluted sodium hypochlorite (acid) will counteract it?I live on the coast, my panels are in line with the sea and frequently savage on-shore winds.
I'm working with the fact that highly diluted white spirit vinegar is often used as a mild cleaning agent for applications where standard off-the-shelf cleaning products are potentially too harsh.OK, so you're assuming that the wind is bringing in alkaline sea water, and therefore the diluted sodium hypochlorite (acid) will counteract it?
Might be a good idea to actually measure the PH of the falling water, it may be more acidic than what you think.
Alcohol would be safer IMHO, tap water laced with some methylated spirits, at least it has a neutral PH, but then again, you would get the same effect from any commercial dish soap. I view all of it as overkill, no-one has the time for it, and it just keeps getting dirty.I'm working with the fact that highly diluted white spirit vinegar is often used as a mild cleaning agent for applications where standard off-the-shelf cleaning products are potentially too harsh.
It was merely an option. One not considering the chemical make-up of the deposits I've noticed on my panels, which are akin to those I'd see on a car or house windows that remains unwashed for several weeks while subjected to sea breezes.
I could just as easily use something alcohol based (like a window cleaner) also extra diluted.
Nah that's not cause of the rain, that's cause of the clouds and the sun refracting through giving a boost, I've hit 4.6 out of 4.3, it's not long though.Not sure if it's just current conditions but after all the highveld rain last night, my generation is hitting 6kW (out of 5.5 installed kWp) even before midday when the sun comes out. I haven't seen this happen in a while with our lack of rain.
So maybe there is something to this panel cleaning thing, even if it's just water?
are you saying he hasn't observed cloud edge effect before?Nah that's not cause of the rain, that's cause of the clouds and the sun refracting through giving a boost, I've hit 4.6 out of 4.3, it's not long though.
Nah that's not cause of the rain, that's cause of the clouds and the sun refracting through giving a boost, I've hit 4.6 out of 4.3, it's not long though.
Looks like itare you saying he hasn't observed cloud edge effect before?
Only really works with certain clouds, but over the last 2 years I've seen it a few timesI get you - lensing effect is it? But, even with this effect over the last while, I haven't seen it go above 4.9 or 5 kW output. Unless of course today's atmospheric conditions are really specific.
What's the temp?I get you - lensing effect is it? But, even with this effect over the last while, I haven't seen it go above 4.9 or 5 kW output. Unless of course today's atmospheric conditions are really specific.
I get you - lensing effect is it? But, even with this effect over the last while, I haven't seen it go above 4.9 or 5 kW output. Unless of course today's atmospheric conditions are really specific.
What's the temp?
Yeah it actually does, when we had that heat wave up here in JHB generation was probably 15% less :-(Right now appears at around 19C. You bring up an interesting point. That does seem to have an effect. On really hot sunny days, generation actually seems to suffer?