Clearing your mind.

[RiaX]

**** .... just saying

EDIT:

really you cant use the slang word for masturbation that starts with a W ? .... yoh stiff rules

 

[killadoob]

Glad you cleared that up... the long posts got me feeling quite confused about what you WERE actually saying

As to citilopram (and other SUI type antidepressants) stopping the production of serotonin - ??? Where do you get that information?

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/neurotr...depletion.html

All over the web, it isn't classified a conspiracy theory because the drug makers for the most part don't actually know how the ssri functions are, they know they work initially and have studies to show that, they just know it kinda does this and kinda does that we think it may do this and we think it may do that. So even they don't know for sure

One thing is for sure, initially people are feeling like bosses but gradually they go backward but it depends on the drug and the person so i am not stating every person goes backward. They never believe it is the drug they are using though so they request more and more and more and change to another ssri and request more and more and more, i am not saying every ssri is like that. Research is key and believing the pharma companies is sometimes a little risky so you would need to see if they have done long term studies on the drug as in 1-5 years. What were the results? Sometimes the very drug you think is helping is the very thing hurting you but you look for the answer somewhere else because you don't believe for one second it is the drug that is the problem.

Been down the ssri road and it was not fun. Interestingly the people who say nutrition should be the first line are more than likely the correct, we are lazy so popping a pill vs eating right is an easy decision . Granted i am not saying copa is lazy or a diet will fix him. He knows more about this stuff than i do but i don't believe the pharma companies know exactly how these drugs work and that concerns me. I have nothing against big pharma companies i love me some benzo's and wellbutrin so i love the pharma companies but that does not mean i must trust them but ssris eish no thanx.

 

[HavocXphere]

Yea but ssris are the same as E. Difference is E depletes serotonin very quickly. The drug copa is on also releases serotonin but at slower rate so E will do it in one session his drug will do over a period of months.

That is exactly what I'm objecting to. SSRIs do not release anything. They prevent was is already released from being re-absorbed. Similar outcome, but it kinda sinks the depletion theory.

 

[ITCynic]

I use a technique I call "Just Listen"

It works for me at night when I have trouble sleeping.

I turn off everything electrical in my room so no noise in the room itself.

Open your windows if it is safe to do so.

And just listen ...... to the sounds around you and picture in your mind what they are, also smell the air. When it rains the air has a unique smell of its own.

By concentrating on the sounds outside, I feel my mind floating and I am soon asleep. So far it works for me and I have been doing this for about 3 years successfully.

 

[Humberto]

As some before me have recommended, I, too, recommend mindfulness meditation and mindfulness exercises.

 

[nfbs]

Do you feel the same the whole day or only at certain times?

 

[copacetic]

It tends to go in phases that last for a cuople weeks, and when I am in one, all the time.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Tried the Sam Harris link I posted?

 

[copacetic]

Not yet, have been otherwise occupied.

I will give it a read tomorrow.