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Well just don't build it on a fault like as they did in Japan, however Sa would be ideal for nuclear stations, the amount of waste is very little and they can just invest into refraction processes.

This is a short run down of what I read on Wiki a while ago. Sure I quoted it on MyBB before as well in relation to a Nuclear plant topic.
Now think about this for a second:

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The world's nuclear fleet creates about 10,000 metric tons of high-level spent nuclear fuel each year
That is a crap load of waste. Of which the one that "expires" the soonest lasts 24 000 years
:eek: *Currently, imagine if all countries suddenly moved to Nuclear energy...

Now if we where to deposit Nuclear waste of 10 000 metric tons a year as it stands now, it's just a simple math equation to realize that at some point supply of waste would out perform the space needed to dump it. This isn't a viable solution. Currently prob the best solution for now, but we need an alternative and soon.


The world's nuclear fleet creates about 10,000 metric tons of high-level spent nuclear fuel each year.[75] High-level radioactive waste management concerns management and disposal of highly radioactive materials created during production of nuclear power. The technical issues in accomplishing this are daunting, due to the extremely long periods radioactive wastes remain deadly to living organisms. Of particular concern are two long-lived fission products, Technetium-99 (half-life 220,000 years) and Iodine-129 (half-life 15.7 million years),[76] which dominate spent nuclear fuel radioactivity after a few thousand years. The most troublesome transuranic elements in spent fuel are Neptunium-237 (half-life two million years) and Plutonium-239 (half-life 24,000 years).[77] Consequently, high-level radioactive waste requires sophisticated treatment and management to successfully isolate it from the biosphere. This usually necessitates treatment, followed by a long-term management strategy involving permanent storage, disposal or transformation of the waste into a non-toxic form.[78]

Governments around the world are considering a range of waste management and disposal options, usually involving deep-geologic placement, although there has been limited progress toward implementing long-term waste management solutions.[79] This is partly because the timeframes in question when dealing with radioactive waste range from 10,000 to millions of years,[80][81] according to studies based on the effect of estimated radiation doses
 
"I am a skeptic ... . Global warming has become a new religion." -- Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

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This is a short run down of what I read on Wiki a while ago. Sure I quoted it on MyBB before as well in relation to a Nuclear plant topic.
Now think about this for a second:

Wiki

:eek: *Currently, imagine if all countries suddenly moved to Nuclear energy...

Now if we where to deposit Nuclear waste of 10 000 metric tons a year as it stands now, it's just a simple math equation to realize that at some point supply of waste would out perform the space needed to dump it. This isn't a viable solution. Currently prob the best solution for now, but we need an alternative and soon.

They should just invest into ways to recycle all of that waste, it is still cleaner than coal, what other alternatives do we use? Cold Fusion?
 
Not invented yet.

We have solar and wind and water as alternatives. Nuclear energy is a short to medium term solution for our energy requirements.

I'm not convinced that wind is really an alternative, it still uses oil. Unless we look towards colonizing the stars, I'm sure Mars can do with a bit of global warming.
 
I'm not convinced that wind is really an alternative, it still uses oil. Unless we look towards colonizing the stars, I'm sure Mars can do with a bit of global warming.
Mars needs an atmosphere and magnetosphere as well :D
 
I'm not convinced that wind is really an alternative, it still uses oil. Unless we look towards colonizing the stars, I'm sure Mars can do with a bit of global warming.

How does CO2 get trapped in out atmosphere?
Maybe get a way to collect it and send it into space?

I remember watching a documentary where they froze Co2 in the form of "Hot ice" something like that. They then drop them to the ocean floor. Now, the pressure at the place where they dropped them are so big that the CO2 can't escape to the surface or something like that. Can't recall what it was called though...
 
How does CO2 get trapped in out atmosphere?
Maybe get a way to collect it and send it into space?

I remember watching a documentary where they froze Co2 in the form of "Hot ice" something like that. They then drop them to the ocean floor. Now, the pressure at the place where they dropped them are so big that the CO2 can't escape to the surface or something like that. Can't recall what it was called though...

I read an article in national geographic a few years ago, someone mentioned that if we could pump co2 into the earth then we could generate precious materials. However this seemed very impractical to me.
 
Now if we where to deposit Nuclear waste of 10 000 metric tons a year as it stands now, it's just a simple math equation to realize that at some point supply of waste would out perform the space needed to dump it. This isn't a viable solution. Currently prob the best solution for now, but we need an alternative and soon.
Do you think 10000 metric tons is a lot when it comes to power station waste?

Let's say nuclear waste is as dense as water (it is in fact substantially denser). 10000 metric tons of water can be contained in a cube with sides equal to 21.6m. This is not a lot. A coal power station produces that volume of fly ash in a couple of hours.

Fly ash is of course much simpler to store (just dump it in a gigantic heap next to the power station), but I think you're overestimating the problem here.
 
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Fly-ash is a very good stabilizer to use in cement though and is recyclable.
 
Do you think 10000 metric tons is a lot when it comes to power station waste?

Let's say nuclear waste is as dense as water (it is in fact substantially denser). 10000 metric tons of water can be contained in a cube with sides equal to 21.6m. This is not a lot. A coal power station produces that volume of fly ash in a couple of hours.

Fly ash is of course much simpler to store (just dump it in a gigantic heap next to the power station), but I think you're overestimating the problem here.

That is just from 3 Nuclear ships mate as it mentions Fleet, I only know of 3 Nuclear powered ships. It doesn't even include the current nuclear plants in the world. 3 ships have waste in a year totaling 10 000 000 kgs.

That is some serious shyte right there :eek:

I'll have to check this, i can't see how ships have 10 000 000 kgs of waste. That is unrealistic. Will feedback soonest.

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Ok seems like there are quite a few nuclear ships.

Interesting read :)
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf34.html
 
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How does CO2 get trapped in out atmosphere?
Maybe get a way to collect it and send it into space?

I remember watching a documentary where they froze Co2 in the form of "Hot ice" something like that. They then drop them to the ocean floor. Now, the pressure at the place where they dropped them are so big that the CO2 can't escape to the surface or something like that. Can't recall what it was called though...

That sounds more like a ticking time bomb for later generations to deal with.

The best technology is when no technology is needed at all. So how about mass planting of plants or trees. Nature as been recycling CO2 for millions of years so why the need to recreate the wheel? If we want to get rid of CO2 the best choice will have to be the natural away and not another bandage technology.
 
I'm all for planting trees, if every City can look like Pretoria then it would do a helluva lot better for the world.
 
Hemp oil?
I mean stuff like POA, phosphate esters and other synthetic esters.

POA is used as a synthetic motor oil for example.

Synthetic as in "made by man and not pulled from nature".

EDIT: but as you say the natural stuff works too. These sorts of things are able to be manufactured or are renewable. We don't have to pull oil out of the ground to make these sorts of things.
 
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