Conservatives and Genetic Fear

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I have just stumbled across this, and thought I would start the New Year off on a good note! :D

Every wonder why conservatives seem to expect the worst of people (Muslims, the poor), while liberals tend to dwell more on the goodness and dignity of all? Or why conservatives are more receptive to threats of terrorism? There may be a scientific explanation!

A new study done at the University College of London shows that people with conservative views have larger amygdalas, the so-called “reptile brain” associated with fear, anxiety, and emotions, and also have a smaller anterior cingulate, the area associated with courage and “looking on the bright side of life”.

Not yet known is which way the effect goes — do conservative thoughts result in a larger amygdalas, or do people have conservative thoughts because they have a larger amygdalas. As usual, further research is warranted!

What’s really funny is that the study was done almost as a joke. The neurologist who conducted the study was asked if there were differences between liberal and conservative brains for a television show in the UK.

Another study, performed by researchers at Harvard and UC San Diego, found that the DRD4 gene predisposes people to being liberal, but only if they had active social lives as adolescents. The same gene has also been linked to people who like to try new things.

Conservatives naturally rejected the study, since they don’t believe in science. Says one, this is just “another fraud up there with … Global Warming”.

I wonder just who is going to vehemently deny this on this forum! :p

http://politicalirony.com/2010/12/3...ampaign=Feed:+politicalirony+(Political+Irony)
 
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself

FDR

A man who today would be considered a conservative nutter :erm:
 
FDR

A man who today would be considered a conservative nutter :erm:

And Alan kicks off the New Year with totally meaningless rubbish! :rolleyes:

FDR was probably the finest DEMOCRATIC President ever. Why on earth do you think(?) that he would be considered a conservative nutter?????????????????
 
And Alan kicks off the New Year with totally meaningless rubbish! :rolleyes:

FDR was probably the finest DEMOCRATIC President ever. Why on earth do you think(?) that he would be considered a conservative nutter?????????????????

It may be a new year but you still can't help but walk straight into these things lol

Japanese-American internment was the relocation and internment by the United States government in 1942 of approximately 110,000 Japanese Americans and Japanese who lived along the Pacific coast of the United States to camps called "War Relocation Camps," in the wake of Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.[1][2] The internment of Japanese Americans was applied unequally throughout the United States. Japanese Americans who lived on the West Coast of the United States were all interned, while in Hawaii, where more than 150,000 Japanese Americans composed over one-third of the territory's population, 1,200[3] to 1,800 Japanese Americans were interned.[4] Of those interned, 62% were American citizens.[5][6]

More than anything music and cinema served the purpose of Anti-Japanese propaganda in the United States primarily during World War II [17]. Aggressive patriotism was portrayed in American music and Hollywood cinema regarding the Japanese [18]. At the beginning of the war the propagandistic potential of lyrics, melodies, and compositions was not taken seriously [19]. The National Wartime Music Committee was created just for anti- Japanese propaganda in the United States [20]. The committee fed on the lack of knowledge of the American people regarding Japanese culture and how they were the foreign enemy [21]. The vision of this committee and Hollywood were to portray the Japanese as a foreign, bizarre, and uncivilized American enemy [22]. American popular songs at the time were songs like “We're gonna have to slap the dirty little Jap”, “Taps for the Japs”, “We’ll nip the Nipponese”, “We’re going to play Yankee Doodle in Tokyo”, and “You’re a Sap, Mr. Jap”; they were all racist in nature and all representation of music propaganda in America during World War II [23]. In the 1940s and the 1950s, music was as strong as any other propagandist method used in the 19th century [24].

The most effective form of Anti-Japanese propaganda is said to be the cinema [25]. Wartime filmmakers subjugated and embellished on the characteristics of the Japanese culture that the American people would find scandalously foreign [26]. To add humor they would often include making fun of the accent of the Japanese when trying to speak English [27]. The would show footage of the Samurai and how dedicated they were to fighting skills, and show them bowing to different symbols of their gods to show how the Japanese have repulsive and alien like qualities to American standards [28]. The United States government had to convince the soldiers and the home front at war visually and orally with an impact of how evil the Japanese were and how they needed to be fought back [29] and eliminated [30]. Hollywood also penetrated the homes of most American homes and film was their primary connection to what was happening in the war [31]. Most of the time the United States War Department and Hollywood used each others sources of footage to create these Anti- Japanese films [32].


At the beginning of the war artists would portray the Japanese as nearsighted, bucktoothed, harmless children [33]. But towards the end of the war the Japanese soldiers and civilians would be portrayed in films as evil, rat faced, enemies that wanted global domination [34].

Seems the greatest Dem pres didn't have a problem with fearmongering :whistle:
 
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No Alan, as usual you can only grab at straws when it comes to trying to keep up your own little campaign of fear and hate.

World War 2 puts a totally different light on ANYONE in control of any of the countries at the time. Wartime "propaganda" also takes on a different slant as the enemy is a very visible one. I guess you will now say that FDR personally signed off every Hollywood movie made during the war as well.

You will also completely ignore the fact that Japanese were put into isolation camps in EVERY country belonging to the Allies - as were groups belonging to Axis powers (Germans and Italians) - but that doesn't suit your agenda.
 
and so the squirming starts......

Negative racial stereotyping and interment without trial based on race/nationality was fine under the " finest DEMOCRATIC President ever" then but not now

Hypocrite.
 
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Squirm?

:confused:

As for negative racial stereotyping, I thought that was your field of expertise.

As for FDR - he was simply doing what any President of the USA would have done under the same circumstances - try and protect his country against an enemy that was totally contemptuous of human life.

Anyway, I see that we are now trying to turn this into a you v/s me slagging match.

Time to get back to the OP and discuss the reptilian aspect of certain people's brains...
 
Ignore Alan, he is just showing off his amazingly sized amygdalas :D
 
And Alan kicks off the New Year with totally meaningless rubbish! :rolleyes:

FDR was probably the finest DEMOCRATIC President ever. Why on earth do you think(?) that he would be considered a conservative nutter?????????????????
Rubbish? Seems your OP was rubbish to begin with ;)
As for courage? You think liberal tree huggers have courage? Please man they have the exact opposite, lets bury our heads in the sand approach.

I suppose you now really believe GW Bush is from the reptile or lizard aliens? :D:D
 
Complete hogwash
Aaah, the only person on this forum who has a bigger amygdalas than Alan (sorry Alan, but marine1 really does have a bigger amygdalas than you) Good to see you. Happy new year!
 
OK...Let's stir some genetic hatred on the 1st day of the year...Perhaps after the "total war" we all can sit back and smile at our greatness...

genetic differences by race ... google it and cry biatches.
 
As if liberals and the global warming "environmentalists" have been innocent in this regard :rolleyes:
 
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Another conservative vs liberal debate...

This time by the University of LONDON, egads brain, isn't the European liberal regarded different than US liberals?

Today the word "liberalism" is used differently in different countries. One of the greatest contrasts is between the usage in the United States and usage in Continental Europe. According to Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. (writing in 1956), "Liberalism in the American usage has little in common with the word as used in the politics of any European country, save possibly Britain."[11] In continental Europe, liberalism usually means what is sometimes called classical liberalism, a commitment to limited government and laissez-faire economics, and more closely corresponds to the American definition of libertarianism—itself a term which in Europe is instead often applied to left-libertarianism.

In late 20th century and early 21st century political discourse in the United States, the term liberalism has come to mean support for freedom of speech, freedom of religion, reproductive rights for women, equal rights for minority groups such as Blacks, women, Hispanics, gays and lesbians, multilateralism and support for international institutions, and support for individual rights over corporate interests. All but the last of these are shared by British and other European liberals.[12] American liberals support a role for government in the relief of poverty, universal healthcare, universal education, organized labor, and protection of the environment, and support payment for these services by a progressive income tax. In continental Europe, these positions would be described as Social democracy.[12]

So the real question is to which liberals they refer. The "old" classical liberals, which promote liberty in all spheres of life, or the new "progressives", which only promote liberty in social lives?

If it is the former, then that would discount Fazda and good ol Wizard. This likely makes more sense, as I see the true liberals (In the original, old sense of the word), had faith in people and didn't fear everyone and everything, and did not call for state control of everything because of this lack of fear.

Where as the "new" liberals, fear the evils of capitalism, and thus need control in certain areas of life!

In my personal opinion, having "courage" means having the balls to speak up against the status quo, and the libertarians or old liberals are the guys who have always done this. "Courage" is not populism.
In my personal opinion, leaving "emotions" out of political thought logically leads one to anarcho-capitalism, "Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts." - Ludwig von Mises

So it seems to me, they were referrring to libertarians (old liberals) vs conservatives, not US Democract "liberals" vs US Republican Conservatives.

That being said, "new" or progressive liberals would have as much in common with conservatives as you do libertarians! Fear and Emotions to boot.

Atleast that was my take on the article, unless you can demonstrate that these guys from London hold the American view of liberal/conservative and not the European view. The article wasn't clear, and it could be either.
 

Nope

Another study, performed by researchers at Harvard and UC San Diego, found that the DRD4 gene predisposes people to being liberal, but only if they had active social lives as adolescents. The same gene has also been linked to people who like to try new things.

Modern liberalism is a form of social liberalism.

The article refers to modern day liberalism. Not 1956 politics. Not sure if you are keeping up with the 21st century here. Your liberalism is from the 19th century. Liberals are the progressives, and the evolve depending on the social environment, liberals have beaten (in most places) things like slavery, bring more equality in the genders and bring about human and civil rights.

If you wish to be proved wrong just email the author of the article to confirm. Its really that simple.
 
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The term "social liberalism" is often used interchangeably with "modern liberalism".[9] The Liberal International is the main international organisation of liberal parties, which include, among other liberal variants, social liberal parties. It affirms the following principles: human rights, free and fair elections and multiparty democracy, social justice, tolerance, social market economy, free trade, environmental sustainability and a strong sense of international solidarity.[10]
Not a bad concept at all.

Social Liberalism is the belief that liberalism should include social justice. It differs from classical liberalism in that it recognizes a legitimate role for the state in addressing economic and social issues such as unemployment, health care, and education while simultaneously expanding civil rights. Under social liberalism, the good of the community is viewed as harmonious with the freedom of the individual.[1] Social liberal policies have been widely adopted in much of the capitalist world, particularly following the Second World War.[2] Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centrist or centre-left.[3][4][5][6][7]

Glad to see that there are smarter people than some of our more amygdalas enhanced conservatives :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism <=-- Good read for good people.
 
This is a nice quote from the Modern Liberalism (basically as close as the Americans can make it to social liberalism. Still pretty progressive) wikipage:

John F. Kennedy defined a liberal as follows:
...someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal'.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States

Modern American liberalism is a form of social liberalism developed from progressive ideals such as Theodore Roosevelt's New Nationalism, Woodrow Wilson's New Freedom, Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, John F. Kennedy's New Frontier, and Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. It combines social liberalism and social progressivism with support for a welfare state and a mixed economy. American liberal causes include voting rights for African Americans, abortion rights for women, gay rights and government entitlements such as education and health care.[1]
 
When you define your worldview, you lose.

When you act the part, then thrust that knife in deep...you win.

Go each your part, and see this world into beauty...Kill, without remorse.
 
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