Considering buying a PS3

Dolby said:
Wait a second, Lemon.

Where did I compare or even mention another product or something that is better?

I still don't see anything wrong with stating a spade is a spade
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Cool, and I raise you a second...

You might not have compared it to any other product explicitly, but definitely did...I'm basing my argument on your posts and Newton's refutable law of relativity...you can only make comments on it's performance by comparing it to other products and this is where i believe teh main problem is, you are comparing it to stand-alone products when you should be comparing it to products in the same CE segment (i.e. gaming consoles)...hence the car analogy...i have not come across (at least in this thread) anywhere that IAP has made claims of it being the best in industy that warranted any response, it appears more to be a vaguely posted opinion/fact to discredit the PS3 features/quality which most of us that have PS3's cannot agree with...

Yes, we should look at industry experts to draw conclusions on this subject (if it was necessary or relevant), but I don't feel it is relevant when a user is buying a console (and looking at blu-ray playback), if the playback is superior on a stand-alone product, it's firstly expected/obvious and 2ndly unrelevant to teh buyer...if he was looking for a high quality playback device, it only makes sense to look for a stand-alone product...car analogy again, if you looking for racing off-road, you don't buy a Rav4 or Landrover 4x4....yes, it meets off road needs, but it's obvious it won't meet off-road racing safety or racing needs....

C'mon...this is really simple...the human has been reduced these days to a 'brainless' consumer, we consume and 'make' choices regarding purchases every single day...our decision making process is based on similar products and personal needs...your comparison to stand-alone products is not relevant in these circumstances...
 
I totally disagree with you.

When I bought my last car, people told me :

'handling isn't that fantastic - be careful on corners'
'performance is pretty decent for the size engine though'
'you get a 5 year service plan - but unfortunaly, not a full maintenance plan'
'perfect deal though - reliable, great resale, excellent performance and functional'

I didn't assume he was compared it to anything. I didn't burst out with 'are you comparing mky car to a Ford Fiesta ST?!' Purely for the reason that he was giving me facts on *my* ar. Maybe we understand differently - but I'll be sure not to give advice or point out anything on what you buy.
 
So Dolby still comparing PS3 features to stand alone products....:/

That's about as silly as say, me creating a thread on the 360 called something like "XBOX 360 - an unbiased opinion", then comparing it's media centre,DVD capabilites, HDD solutions etc to stand alone products, then drawing the obvious conclusions that yes, there are better stand alone products out there, but it's pretty ok'ish if that's what you're looking for...
 
Dolby and IAP are actually brothers and this is just a very clever post whoring exercise.
 
SiriS said:
Dolby and IAP are actually brothers and this is just a very clever post whoring exercise.
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I don't want to be linked or associated with that Penguin - hence I won't post in that thread purposely for fear of being associated, as you just said :'(
 
Pretty much the whole thread, from the OP to just about everything else...
 
Dolby said:
GAMES : Games are roughly equal on either console and it comes to down to the exclusives. I've tried a PS3 and Xbox side-by-side with similar games (Forza 2 and GT5 Prolugue) with both on HDMI. Guess what? That massive difference everyone has been telling you does not really exist. Some games are slighly better on the 'box, some are better on the PS3 and some are negligable. There are people on the forum with BOTH consoles and they'll confirm.

BLU RAY : Well that's pretty decent and could be a reason to buy for many. A few things to keep in mind : if you have a small TV, you're going to be hard pressed to notice a huge difference between DVD and BD - let alone upscaled DVD. Also bear in mind that not all BR players are the same. The PS3 BR was actually a great BR when it was launched - but towards late 2009it's performance is on par with entry level players from Samsung and Sony.

HOME ENTERTAINMENT : When it comes to media streaming, the PS3 is slightly below par of even the entry level machines. Slightly limited in what it can play and do, but not too bad if that's what you're looking for mainstream and value all in one box. If you've got a ton of movies, series and music in different codecs/contaiers and are a real media buff, your best bet is to go seperate if you can. As good a job as a PS3 can do, it's no match for a stand alone, despite what everyone tells you.

Listening to certain people on here, you'll be think the PS3 is *the* best when it comes to every function. Truth is, it isn't, and it's up to the indivual to determine what he currently has (equipment wise), what he will get in future (equipment wise), what he values most about the functions (BD? games? streaming?) and what games you prefer.

Great machine - but it does have limitations which should be told and may - or may not - be relevant
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Um ... this is a comparison ... ? Ok
 
Dolby said:
Um ... this is a comparison ... ? Ok
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Sure is, even if you're trying to fake out of initiating a FAIL thread. What would you call it?

"The PS3 BR was actually a great BR when it was launched - but towards late 2009it's performance is on par with entry level players from Samsung and Sony." Comparing indirectly to stand alone BR players.

"When it comes to media streaming, the PS3 is slightly below par of even the entry level machines." Same here...

"As good a job as a PS3 can do, it's no match for a stand alone, despite what everyone tells you." And again...

Constantly saying the features of the PS3 can not compare to those of stand alone products is, you guessed it, comparing it.
 
I'd call it objective ...

... have you emailed the reviewers that only put the PS3 on par with entry level machines to complain?
 
Dolby said:
I'd call it objective ...

... have you emailed the reviewers that only put the PS3 on par with entry level machines to complain?
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Why would i do that? As i've said earlier, i could do the very same thing you did, the end result would be similar, i.e. predictably daft.

"That's about as silly as say, me creating a thread on the 360 called something like "XBOX 360 - an unbiased opinion", then comparing it's media centre,DVD capabilites, HDD solutions etc to stand alone products, then drawing the obvious conclusions that yes, there are better stand alone products out there, but it's pretty ok'ish if that's what you're looking for... "
 
You are right ... if you were comparing.

Comparing means between two or more products ... not a single.
 
I can see this is going nowhere fast....

Last time i respond, since it's obviously not sinking in.

You said:
"As good a job as a PS3 can do, it's no match for a stand alone, despite what everyone tells you."

That sentence essentially says:

As good as the PS3 is, it can not compare to stand alone, despite what everyone tells you. Want to argue semantics? Go ahead, you're clearly too stubborn to admit you've created a pointless thread.
 
Kerrrang! said:
I can see this is going nowhere fast....

Last time i respond, since it's obviously not sinking in.

You said:
"As good a job as a PS3 can do, it's no match for a stand alone, despite what everyone tells you."

That sentence essentially says:

As good as the PS3 is, it can not compare to stand alone, despite what everyone tells you. Want to argue semantics? Go ahead, you're clearly too stubborn to admit you've created a pointless thread.
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Um.

See, I really see nothing wrong with that fact. How would you phrase it, without a 'comparison'? Would it have been better if I said, 'As good job as a PS3 can do, it can't do .mkv, .flac. subtitles, angles, album art ....' Or would you have an issue with that too?
 
Kerrrang! said:
I can see this is going nowhere fast....

Last time i respond, since it's obviously not sinking in.

You said:
"As good a job as a PS3 can do, it's no match for a stand alone, despite what everyone tells you."

That sentence essentially says:

As good as the PS3 is, it can not compare to stand alone, despite what everyone tells you. Want to argue semantics? Go ahead, you're clearly too stubborn to admit you've created a pointless thread.
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you said the same thing twice, What exactly are you trying to argue/prove?
 
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