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Frog Foot networks will finish installing fibre by the end of the year in my area and I'm thinking of going with 10Mb/s down 5Mb/s up uncapped, unshaped fibre with Cool Ideas for 599pm. (Line rental included)

That sounds to cheap, does anyone know if it is any good.
 
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Cool Ideas is expensive and they limit the upload speed for which you then have to pay more to remove the limitation.
 
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Swa said:
Cool Ideas is expensive and they limit the upload speed for which you then have to pay more to remove the limitation.
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That is absolute lies. I am on a Cool Ideas 20/20 uncapped package. And I have never been limited.
 
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Fine if don't want to believe it. Just check their own fcking website but as usual though fanboys won't accept criticism. :rolleyes:
 
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Fine if don't want to believe it. Just check their own fcking website but as usual though fanboys won't accept criticism. :rolleyes:
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Please provide link to back up your claims. If you cannot, it is more lies spewed by you
 
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No, they do not "limit" the upstream, it's called a GPON fibre deployment...

and secondly, at what point do you have to pay more for them to increase the upload speed? I don't see it anywhere on the site because it's a limitation on the fibre infrastructure with certain deployments...
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First of all Vuma isn't GPON so the limitation is artificial and not based on the technology. Secondly there is little need to limit upload speed unless it's beyond the actual line capability so most providers just make it symmetric. The limitation on GPON is in any case 2/1 and not 20/2 as their packages. They charge extra for the 20/20 package which also negates your argument that it's a limitation of the fibre infrastructure.

But hey, no need to actually check their pages. We'll just call it all rubbish... :rolleyes:
 
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And if you want more than 1Mbps upload on the 4Mbps package there is no equivalent 4Mbps package and you have to settle for one of the more expensive 20Mbps packages.
 
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I'm very happy with them on Vumatel and 20/20 for 899, no shaping, throttling, drops or any other crap... Just pure internet joy

Not sure about Frogfoot infrastructure and packages, but on Vuma, I have no hassles at all
 
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Swa said:
Cool Ideas is expensive and they limit the upload speed for which you then have to pay more to remove the limitation.
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Considering ADSL costs over R1000 (line+speed= R614 then add on your gigs another R500 at least) for a 10mb/s line with a 1mb/s upload speed.

For R999 you can get 100/50mb/s uncapped 10x the download and 50x the upload.

They also do this because people leave their torrents uploading at 12+MB/s which the company will have to pay for, this will drive up costs. Driving up cost puts strain on the consumer, you get less for more (I don't know why I need to explain this to you).

So if you really need more upload speed paying more for it makes perfect sense and they give you this option. For an average consumer you really don't need 100mb/s upload speed so cutting this cost brings a great affordable package.

So pointing out their packages to us on their website really makes you look like a fool.
 
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Swa said:
First of all Vuma isn't GPON so the limitation is artificial and not based on the technology. Secondly there is little need to limit upload speed unless it's beyond the actual line capability so most providers just make it symmetric. The limitation on GPON is in any case 2/1 and not 20/2 as their packages. They charge extra for the 20/20 package which also negates your argument that it's a limitation of the fibre infrastructure.

But hey, no need to actually check their pages. We'll just call it all rubbish... :rolleyes:
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Near all the FTTH packages on the frogfoot network are 2:1... http://frogfootfibre.co.za/Home/Home/Packages
Also, you get what you pay for, if you pay for a 20/10 package you get 20Mbps down and 10Mbps up, the way you phrased it you said that they will limit you even more than the package you already pay for.
 
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So just to add to this ISPs are limited to what operators provide. We as the ISP don't limit it because we want to, actually the opposite we would give as much capacity as possible on the package. Vumatel control the line speeds not us for instance on the 50/5 vs 50/50. But some good news actually on the frogfoot network is we will make all packages symmetrical from our side so whatever is available on the upload customers can use. This comes after frogfoot has told us there is lots of excess capacity available on their network.
 
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MattCentralOffical said:
Frog Foot networks will finish installing fibre by the end of the year in my area and I'm thinking of going with 10Mb/s down 5Mb/s up uncapped, unshaped fibre with Cool Ideas for 599pm. (Line rental included)

That sounds to cheap, does anyone know if it is any good.
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Matt so this will be a 10/10 package actually going forward :).
 
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Scary_Turtle said:
Considering ADSL costs over R1000 (line+speed= R614 then add on your gigs another R500 at least) for a 10mb/s line with a 1mb/s upload speed.

For R999 you can get 100/50mb/s uncapped 10x the download and 50x the upload.

They also do this because people leave their torrents uploading at 12+MB/s which the company will have to pay for, this will drive up costs. Driving up cost puts strain on the consumer, you get less for more (I don't know why I need to explain this to you).

So if you really need more upload speed paying more for it makes perfect sense and they give you this option. For an average consumer you really don't need 100mb/s upload speed so cutting this cost brings a great affordable package.

So pointing out their packages to us on their website really makes you look like a fool.
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You were on your way to a sensible comment till that last line. This may make sense to you but there is no technical reason to limit upload speed. You are comparing FTTH to ADSL here. Rather compare them to other ISPs. They are more expensive once you pay to reduce the artificial limitations.

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Near all the FTTH packages on the frogfoot network are 2:1... http://frogfootfibre.co.za/Home/Home/Packages
Also, you get what you pay for, if you pay for a 20/10 package you get 20Mbps down and 10Mbps up, the way you phrased it you said that they will limit you even more than the package you already pay for.
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Something wrong with your reading and comprehension skills...
 
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Paying R599 for Cybersmart:

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Virginia USA:
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Can't help but think the Cool Ideas is really expensive for what you get.
 
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