Corporal punishment enhanced my learning (Opinion)

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At Zimele Senior Secondary School in Ikhwezi township in Mthatha, we all knew and respected the rules of the schools.

Not that we had any choice, because our strong, beautiful and disciplined principal Mrs Hardy never created a room for clowns.

You either behaved or you would find yourself commanded to go get your own stick from the nearest tree, a stick that would harshly visit your tiny hands.

From being late at school, not doing homework, attaining 49 out of 50 in a test, to bullying - that didn’t exist at Hardy’s premises.

Yes, attaining 49 out of 50 marks qualified you for a lashing. Mr Damane, my Xhosa and maths teacher, would always emphasise that getting less than the total marks was an insult to him, because he stood in front of us, explained the work, and we nodded to notify we understood, but in a test, we scored the opposite. For that you would get a hiding.

We never felt abused, we never felt unloved and we never felt rejected.

It was hurting, but it was fun, because some in my class would jump and roam the entire classroom when it was their turn to get lashes.

That made us laugh at each other, but we laughed at each others' fears with love.

Such instances helped us grow, and our learning process improved daily because we never wanted to disappoint our parents. But overall, a beating was something we avoided at all times.

For me that was discipline. In the morning, you would wake up, bath, dress, eat your breakfast and leave early, because you didn’t want Mrs Hardy to by any chance to close the school gate while you were outside the premises.

If you were unlucky enough to find yourself outside by the time school had started, you knew exactly what to expect. Collect litter papers in the school yard, or plough the garden: it was your choice to make. But before you chose, at least two lashes had to visit your tiny hand. That made learners, including myself, transform and be disciplined children.
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More at: https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/opinion/corporal-punishment-enhanced-my-learning-11228463
 
I have to agree.
I went to a Jesuit boarding school where rules were so strict that not even tuck or radios were allowed.
Before breaking the rules we knew that the consequences would be a beating if caught.
To my knowledge, none of the boys turned out badly as a result.
 
I agree 100%.

Got manners donnered into me. I'm a better person than I would have been.
 
I agree 100%

#bringbackthecane and maybe just maybe these entitled brats will get their priories straight.
 
Siwaphiwe Myataza is a political science graduate from the University of the Western Cape.
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LOL, so that is why the author went for a B.S degree that doesn't require any sort of higher thinking.
 
Who is this we the author is speaking of? Do they think they're royalty? Because frankly I can guarantee there were those involved who were constantly terrified of their parents, teachers and going to school.

But basically the author is endorsing abusing children who struggle with a subject. And don't tell me those same abusive teachers didn't meet out abuse to children who dared to keep asking for further explanations for concepts they were struggling to understand.

They also confuse fear with respect.

to bullying - that didn’t exist at Hardy’s premises
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Well besides the teachers being bullies I highly doubt there were no bullies amongst the pupils. Does the author really believe any pupil would be bullying out in the open? Or that they really had the only school in the entire country with no bullies amongst the pupils?

sbu22 said:
#bringbackthecane and maybe just maybe these entitled brats will get their priories straight.
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Assault my child and I'll be more than happy to give the individual responsible a beating they'll never forget. I will never under any circumstances tolerate an adult striking my child. They'll have to find another target for their abuse.
 
noxibox said:
Who is this we the author is speaking of? Do they think they're royalty? Because frankly I can guarantee there were those involved who were constantly terrified of their parents, teachers and going to school.

But basically the author is endorsing abusing children who struggle with a subject. And don't tell me those same abusive teachers didn't meet out abuse to children who dared to keep asking for further explanations for concepts they were struggling to understand.

They also confuse fear with respect.

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Well besides the teachers being bullies I highly doubt there were no bullies amongst the pupils. Does the author really believe any pupil would be bullying out in the open? Or that they really had the only school in the entire country with no bullies amongst the pupils?


Assault my child and I'll be more than happy to give the individual responsible a beating they'll never forget. I will never under any circumstances tolerate an adult striking my child. They'll have to find another target for their abuse.
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At school I'd rather had 2 of the best than having detention :p
 
I was taught right from wrong with a cane and a belt , i have no regrets as i was a naughty little shyt and fear if i was not firmly taught lessons i would have been a criminal or a hobo .
There are many entitled children of today that will be a mill stone round their parents neck until the parents die , then a burden on the state because they never learned discipline .
Abuse is one thing discipline another .
 
I guess corporal punishment tied in with conscription in a way: not only did it instil discipline for day to day life, it also prepared you for your compulsory stint in the military, where being "loskop" could cost you your life - or someone else's. I missed it (fortunately) but my uncles told me all about "opfok". I also benefited from getting on my moer at school: learnt the hard way that there were consequences to every action.

I think there will always be two camps: those of us who were in school when corporal punishment was a part of day to day life (and who experienced it first hand and are better for it), and those who find it alien, abusive and violent because they were brought up on time-outs and being told everyone was a winner for simply taking part.

What we're left with currently, though, is an entire generation of ill-disciplined, disrespectful, spoilt-brat millenials. Something a well-timed klap or two could've prevented...
 
Just out of curiosity what would you call a situation in which a bigger person exerted control over a smaller person through physical violence?

A bully right?

So why is it OK for a bigger (adult) person to exert control over a smaller (child) person by physical violence?

There is so much information available on the negative impacts of corporal punishment that there is simply no justification for it any more.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/04/15...ect-academic-success-joint-hrw/aclu-statement

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110726111109.htm

http://www.cyc-net.org/features/viewpoints/c-corporalpunishmenteffects.html

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/the-negative-effects-of-corporal-punishment-and-verbal-abuse
 
Zoomzoom said:
Just out of curiosity what would you call a situation in which a bigger person exerted control over a smaller person through physical violence?

A bully right?

So why is it OK for a bigger (adult) person to exert control over a smaller (child) person by physical violence?

There is so much information available on the negative impacts of corporal punishment that there is simply no justification for it any more.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/04/15...ect-academic-success-joint-hrw/aclu-statement

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110726111109.htm

http://www.cyc-net.org/features/viewpoints/c-corporalpunishmenteffects.html

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/the-negative-effects-of-corporal-punishment-and-verbal-abuse
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By corporal punishment do they mean hitting of the buttocks or other things?
 
Zoomzoom said:
Just out of curiosity what would you call a situation in which a bigger person exerted control over a smaller person through physical violence?

A bully right?

So why is it OK for a bigger (adult) person to exert control over a smaller (child) person by physical violence?

There is so much information available on the negative impacts of corporal punishment that there is simply no justification for it any more.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/04/15...ect-academic-success-joint-hrw/aclu-statement

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110726111109.htm

http://www.cyc-net.org/features/viewpoints/c-corporalpunishmenteffects.html

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/the-negative-effects-of-corporal-punishment-and-verbal-abuse
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^ This is the problem with today's youth.
 
So ... Beating children to make them compliant 'Makes them a better person'? .. all the 'I am good for getting physically abused by a teacher' people I can only wonder how they would have been if there was no caning.

The only think that Corporal punishment taught me is how to be a better liar at making convincing excuses.. hardly a life skill that is needed
 
Ricard said:
So ... Beating children to make them compliant 'Makes them a better person'? .. all the 'I am good for getting physically abused by a teacher' people I can only wonder how they would have been if there was no caning.

The only think that Corporal punishment taught me is how to be a better liar at making convincing excuses.. hardly a life skill that is needed
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Don't blame your lying on corporal punishment
 
Thor said:
Don't blame your lying on corporal punishment
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You give any kid an option... PAIN or lying to get out of pain... no matter what high horse or utopian dreamland you live in as an adult - Kids will tell porky pies to save their bacon.

Using fear/pain to motivate dogs just creates a pet that p1sses on the floor when you walk in the room. I would not call that a success story
 
Ricard said:
You give any kid an option... PAIN or lying to get out of pain... no matter what high horse or utopian dreamland you live in as an adult - Kids will tell porky pies to save their bacon.

Using fear/pain to motivate dogs just creates a pet that p1sses on the floor when you walk in the room. I would not call that a success story
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Sounds like the result of abuse.

Disciplining with an occational spanking will just teach you not to do naughty things.
 
supersunbird said:
Sounds like the result of abuse.

Disciplining with an occational spanking will just teach you not to do naughty things.
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The key word is occasional.. but where is the occasional line crossed? .. when you have spoken 3 times and then take action? Has the kid been shown what the correct behavior is.

From my high school days ... Handwriting not neat - jacks ; drawings not neat - Jacks; hair not cut to the millimeter - jacks; nails too long - Jacks; shoes not shined - Jacks; handouts not stuck in book to teachers satisfaction - Jacks; Arriving to school after the bell (1 Second late due to bus/dad) - Jacks ; One coward in the class pranks - whole class get jacks

Where is the differentiation? When does Corporal punishment become child abuse. The whole corporal punishment legitimises the whole 'He/She deserved to be bliksemmed'
 
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