Cosatu: Speed up Zim resolution

[NoADSLyet]

All i can tell you is the west has never in it entire history been fair to Africa. So who can even think they are fair and balanced? Not an informed person like me

You mean to say a Brainwashed *****?

 

[kilo39]

I have no doubt that for you free press is when the USA and the UK Propaganda machines like CNN, BBC, and Reuters are allowed to run destabilizing news in a country to push for their agenda of world domination and control. If all Africans were like me, I am sure those countries will never be allowed to meet with us or even talk to us again. We should look at them like the terror heaven they truly are. I am happy that President Mugabe is acting like I expected him to act; he is acting with the highest degree of fairness, discipline, intelligence and essence. Mugabe is an inspiration to me.

No. I was meaning Zim's own media of which it now has none due to the actions of Bob, what's he scared of in his own media? Could it be the truth? (Otherwise why shut ALL 'free' press?!)

SO public beatings on tv equate to: highest degree of fairness, discipline, intelligence and essence?

Well now we know your definition of freedom... in the west they called it Abu Ghraib.

 

[Shaka]

The west?? Why do you keep pushing this the West vs Africa ideology? There is no more West vs the Rest. It's Africa vs it self. And Robert Mugabe is the ape running the show in Zim - no "the west" has been there for more than 25 years.

Why lie to informed people? They will obviously tell you that you a liar and won't take you serious anymore. Why saying there is no west Vs the rest. It’s Africa vs. itself when Britain parliament had more than one discussion on Zimbabwe before? And former PM Tony Blair told their parliament that his policy toward Zimbabwe was a policy of regime change. Bush government said they were sponsoring event in Zimbabwe to undermine President Mugabe rule. I do understand that you trying to maintain the myth you people created that the enemy of Africans are Africans themselves, but it doesn't make sense when putting that in the face of people who inform themselves everyday. Calling Mugabe an ape show how mad you are at Mugabe. What can possibly make you this mad at him? Is it because you are a Zimbabwean? Is it because Mugabe did hurt your family members? Or maybe your-self, all I can tell you hate will only generate hate. So do your best to carefully choose your words when addressing our hero, because next times it will be me calling your DA leader a pig or your Cousin Bush a baboon. And I promise you that the moderators won't like it. That will get you banned; and it will get me to come back another day.

 

[Syndyre]

I have no doubt that for you free press is when the USA and the UK Propaganda machines like CNN, BBC, and Reuters are allowed to run destabilizing news in a country to push for their agenda of world domination and control. If all Africans were like me, I am sure those countries will never be allowed to meet with us or even talk to us again. We should look at them like the terror heaven they truly are. I am happy that President Mugabe is acting like I expected him to act; he is acting with the highest degree of fairness, discipline, intelligence and essence. Mugabe is an inspiration to me.

If Mugage's an inspiration to you then why aren't you living in Zim? I hear they're open for investment.

 

[Shaka]

No. I was meaning Zim's own media of which it now has none due to the actions of Bob, what's he scared of in his own media? Could it be the truth? (Otherwise why shut ALL 'free' press?!)

SO public beatings on tv equate to: highest degree of fairness, discipline, intelligence and essence?

Well now we know your definition of freedom... in the west they called it Abu Ghraib.

Have you heard the story about the USA CIA and the British M16 bribing member of the press and media groups to plant stories that will discredit their enemies and glorify the puppet they are using on the ground? That is what they did in Zimbabwe and that is what they did in Iraq and are still currently doing in Iraq. We cannot have a few groups of countries having their nose all over the place. USA/UK are currently working against North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, Myanmar, China, Venezuela, Russia, Iran, Syria, IRAQ, Palestine, Bolivia and many other countries. Those 2 alone have put their nose in all those countries. Will you tell me that the USA/UK are god messengers and all those countries I named above are Satan messengers? So all those countries are wrong and only the USA/UK are right? That is the reason the government of Zimbabwe to protect national security has revoked the licenses of all the puppet news organizations and has done the same for NGO working as a cover for the enemy of Zimbabwe and the African people. I praise President Mugabe for that move; it shows the man has leadership that only the best possess.

 

[kilo39]

when Britain parliament had more than one discussion on Zimbabwe before? And former PM Tony Blair told their parliament that his policy toward Zimbabwe was a policy of regime change. Bush government said they were sponsoring event in Zimbabwe to undermine President Mugabe rule.

Yes this is the usual route when 'the west' doesn't support dictators they don't like. Nothing detracts from the fact that he is a dictator though (otherwise they would have free and fair elections, a representative opposition etc, none of which is the case in Zim.) What is the irreducible? The fact he is a dictator (no matter the actions of the west.)

So do your best to carefully choose your words when addressing our hero, because next times it will be me calling your DA leader a pig or your Cousin Bush a baboon. And I promise you that the moderators won't like it. That will get you banned; and it will get me to come back another day.

No problem calling bush a baboon: and that be the difference.

 

[Gnome]

Shaka is zealot, there is no reason arguing with him, he's obviously either very stupid or has been indoctrinated.

 

[Shaka]

Shaka is zealot, there is no reason arguing with him, he's obviously either very stupid or has been indoctrinated.

Why insult when you disagree with some one? you lucky because all the moderators are watching me. consider yourself lucky this time.

 

[Shaka]

Yes this is the usual route when 'the west' doesn't support dictators they don't like.

The west is the only dictator on the planet, imposing their languages, imposing their religion, imposing their puppet all over the world. Imposing poverty, imposing wars, the west is the only reason people must fight for freedom, they are the freedom hijackers and other people have to fight them to get freedom back.

Nothing detracts from the fact that he is a dictator though (otherwise they would have free and fair elections, a representative opposition etc, none of which is the case in Zim.) What is the irreducible? The fact he is a dictator (no matter the actions of the west.)

This same attitude of wanting to dictate other sovereign countries is what has made the west the despotic entity of the planet that it is today, the so called west represent everything oppressive on the planet. They only hide behind the use of force, bribery, mafia and the propaganda on their powerful media. The west opinion on Zimbabwe is the same as Hitler opinion on Zimbabwe; they have adopted a lot of Hitler ways, maybe because they share a lot in common with Hitler.

 

[Slooth]

Hey Shaka, could you list those evil western countries?

They only hide behind the use of force, bribery, mafia and the propaganda on their powerful media.

I have to agree with you man, it's nuts how they put a gun to african leaders and make them take bribes. I feel your anger!

 

[BobbyMac]

Why lie to informed people? They will obviously tell you that you a liar and won't take you serious anymore. Why saying there is no west Vs the rest.

It's all in your head.

It’s Africa vs. itself when Britain parliament had more than one discussion on Zimbabwe before?

Britain had many interests in Zimbabwe which they have subsequently written off.

And former PM Tony Blair told their parliament that his policy toward Zimbabwe was a policy of regime change.

Nothing wrong with that. Mugabe is not fit to preside over Zimbabwe anymore. Arguably he never was

Bush government said they were sponsoring event in Zimbabwe to undermine President Mugabe rule.

Please provide a link to this.

I do understand that you trying to maintain the myth you people created that the enemy of Africans are Africans themselves

they are. It's not a myth. The wars and conflict ravaging across Africa is enough evidence by it self. People like Mugabe reinforce the point.

, but it doesn't make sense when putting that in the face of people who inform themselves everyday.

Your state cannot be likened to one who is "informed". Lay off the crack.

Calling Mugabe an ape show how mad you are at Mugabe.

You're right. Calling Mugabe an ape was insulting to the apes. I apologise to all apes for this and retract the statement. Robert Mugabe is a ****ing stupid piece of inanimate sloppy ****. Better?

What can possibly make you this mad at him?

He is destroying Southern Africa.

Is it because you are a Zimbabwean? Is it because Mugabe did hurt your family members? Or maybe your-self, all I can tell you hate will only generate hate.

Oh, Shaka the philosopher. You sound more like Thabo Mbeki every time you post.

So do your best to carefully choose your words when addressing our hero

He is not a hero

, because next times it will be me calling your DA leader a pig or your Cousin Bush a baboon.

Go ahead. I don't care who thinks what of them... they're not affiliated with me nor I with them. Incidentally, George W. Bush supports the execution of Retards - best you never go to Texas.

And I promise you that the moderators won't like it.

As far as I know the moderators mostly act on complaints, so unless you're being an ass conjuring up copious complaints, you probably won't be banned.

That will get you banned; and it will get me to come back another day.

Poor you.

 

[telkomsuig]

I thought what Mugabe is doing is exactly what the COSATU/SACP/ZUMA is proposing for SA...anti capitalism goverment control etc

 

[kilo39]

The west is the only dictator on the planet, imposing their languages, imposing their religion, imposing their puppet all over the world. Imposing poverty, imposing wars, the west is the only reason people must fight for freedom, they are the freedom hijackers and other people have to fight them to get freedom back.

This same attitude of wanting to dictate other sovereign countries is what has made the west the despotic entity of the planet that it is today, the so called west represent everything oppressive on the planet. They only hide behind the use of force, bribery, mafia and the propaganda on their powerful media. The west opinion on Zimbabwe is the same as Hitler opinion on Zimbabwe; they have adopted a lot of Hitler ways, maybe because they share a lot in common with Hitler.

imposing their languages
Last I looked the world was round: with many different cultures, languages, etc. That english is chosen as the international language of business or stores most of the world knowledge is a simple result of the worlds revolution, evolution: popularity

imposing their religion
By this I assume you mean christianity? Are the american indians christian? Are the Indian indians Are the muslims christian?

imposing their puppet all over the world
Would that include Russia and China? And which other sovereign nations?

Imposing poverty
The unfortunate thing is loans were given with the full participation of the recipients.

imposing wars
Only ever taking advantage of forces already present on the ground, within the local populations.

the west is the only reason people must fight for freedom, they are the freedom hijackers and other people have to fight them to get freedom back

Everybody has had to fight for freedom: womans rights, the french revolution, the american civil war. Ever heard of "Gay Rights, or Freedom of Speech?'

This same attitude of wanting to dictate other sovereign countries is what has made the west the despotic entity of the planet that it is today, the so called west represent everything oppressive on the planet.

We live in a world of electricity, internet, and international air travel; which part of these are "oppressive?"

They only hide behind the use of force, bribery, mafia and the propaganda on their powerful media. The west opinion on Zimbabwe is the same as Hitler opinion on Zimbabwe; they have adopted a lot of Hitler ways, maybe because they share a lot in common with Hitler.

Be careful not to confuse the actions of the George Bush government with those of Churchill; be careful not to confuse the mafia with the Red Cross or Mugabe with Murdoch, or the present with any other time.

It's a larger world than George Bush, or Stalin, or Murdoch or bob. Most of the world couldn't place zimbabwe on a map; yes you may argue the evil west but the globe is round and western isn't the only culture. Bob is as isolated as Kim Jong-il; dictators have no answer to a free press or a viable opposition (which is why there is none.)

 

[Milano]

Shaka:

If you search the forum for the phrase 'imperialist forces' there are only 3 results returned.

The first two results both relate to the topic of Zimbabwe and are both made by fervent supporters of Mugabe (a rare species indeed):

1. http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=1104167&postcount=5

on the dangerous propaganda of African people enemies and imperialist supremacist forces of Europe.

(posted by Lebambi)

2. http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=1126703&postcount=3

We as Africans will not let any racist imperialist forces to dictate the way to Zimbabwe

(Posted by Shaka)

So now Shaka, Lebambi was banned on around 28 June 2007 and you joined when exactly? Was it two days later or three? Nope it was the next day 29 June 2007.

Coincidence? I think not.