Creation over Evolution

[pupa]

Shame I got the responses I was looking for! Shame again I pity you guys! at least I have a believe in something, You guys? Shame My pity is really on you. If having a religion of some sorts make you a fool then I am happy to be one. For one if at least even if only my beliefs makes mine a better life I still have something to look forward too after death, What have you got????? a miserable life in South Africa, knowing it will end soon forever! what are you doing here, go have fun man it is short lived! if you believe there is no reason for our existence but a mere fluke in the past eons of history! What a waste of breath!

 

[pupa]

Do you pity the ancient Greeks who believed in Zeus and the rest of Olympus? They to believed in the super-natural and pitied anyone who didn't share their beliefs. Eventually time moved on, and so did people's beliefs. What makes you think yours will not share the same fate?

People are allowed to believe whatever they like so you are completely entitled to yours, but save your pity for something that doesn't make you look like a fool.

They also beleved in God's like some PPL believe in the supernatural also as in a God. Look up the definition of a God and see what it means and how you can apply it to yourselve for whatever you want. The fact remain some PPL believe our existence is there for a reason and making kids is not the only reason. Some PPL even today preach for their god's as statues. But they still believe in something not nothing! If that makes him a fool so be it, better the fool that believed in something and got nothing but a decent life than the fool that believes in nothing and will definatly get nothing. What a empty thought, must be miserable just thinking about it!

 

[pupa]

If you need to find meaning for your existence in a book written by semi-civilised nomads, go for it...

Those semi civilised Nomads had more intelligence in their beings than many a nation today. After 2000 years their believe systems and knowledge is still active and are the basis for many scientific knowledge and findings even today. If that make them less than than the intellect shown by nations today especially in African nations, that have no achievements to show, then Yes I prefer their wisdom to what is available today! At least 2000 years ago they were highly sophisticated "semi-civilised" people compared to civilised Africa today which by the way only became civilised 200 Years ago by introduction of the descendant's of the "semi civilised" people at the time. I wonder why?

 

[Prometheus]

Some people seem to be getting the point now. Evolution has never been proven to be an absolute fact, yet some people belief that it's the only possible explanation. I never wanted to introduce religion in the first place, but since the evolutionists on this site seem to want to attack it as if it's something sinister I honestly have no choice but, to defend it.

The evolutionists don't even do any research for the basis of their claims with regard to religion. I did research on the subject of evolution therefor I am able to show you what has been proven and disproven.

As for planet X, it exists. It's a scientific fact. It's over 5 times the size of earth and over 100 times its mass. It has a magnetic core so powerful that it clashes with the electromagnetic fields of other planets in the solar system. A magnetic core powerful enough to swing around the magnetic core of earth. And guess what, it's heading our way again. Seems like now is the time for the nonbelievers to go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth exactly like the bible said they would.

 

[mooK]

Planet X does not exist, it's a myth.

Prometheus, I don't know where you get your info from but I understand how easy it is to find information on the web which appears to be true and legitimate, when in fact it's all a lie. There are a lot of self-serving conspiracy theorist idiots on the net who write out absolute b/s trying to convince people to conform to their twisted beliefs.

So take everything you read out here on the net with a large pinch of salt, and always try to get an objective source of information to compare with so you can find some semblance of truth in a matter.

Exit Mundi explanation of Planet-X, very interesting site about *possible* end of the world scenarios, I was up all night once reading them, very interesting!
http://www.exitmundi.nl/Planet-X.htm

Wiki entry for Planet-X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_x

 

[jabulani]

The evolutionists don't even do any research for the basis of their claims with regard to religion. I did research on the subject of evolution therefor I am able to show you what has been proven and disproven.

I think you are now starting to flip. What qualifications do you have in either evolutionary science or theology, apart from a few trivial net lookups?

As for planet X, it exists. ...
And guess what, it's heading our way again. Seems like now is the time for the nonbelievers to go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth exactly like the bible said they would.

Lo, the end of the world is nigh! It will come like a mighty wind, like a thief in the night! You know, looking out over the valley below, I saw strange shadows playing on the ground. Behold - the Four Meatballs Of The Apocalypse winging over the sky! For the great day of his Noodliness is come; and who shall be able to stand?

You know, in Jeremiah 54:14 it says:

Believeth not the idiot who maketh ceaseless noise - the wise man holdeth his own counsel.

You should take heed my son!

 

[mooK]

Also, I'd like to share something that just occured to me.

I find it quite sad how religious people harp on about respecting people's religion as soon as something even mildly anti-religion is said. What it comes down to is having respect for other people's belief, which I agree with, however, there's a huge double standard. People who are not religious, still have their own beliefs, and they too should be respected. There's no reason for these rights to be exclusive to the religious. Atheists do have their own beliefs, and they have the right for their beliefs to be respected.

So pupa, I'd like to point out that most atheists or agnostics probably feel sorry for you.

 

[Highflyer_GP]

As for planet X, it exists. It's a scientific fact. It's over 5 times the size of earth and over 100 times its mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_x

Planet X disproved
The distant space probes Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, and Voyagers 1 and 2 disproved the existence of Planet X, as hypothesized by Lowell, in two ways. First, as they passed each of the outer planets, the acceleration gained by the gravitational pull of the planet was used to refine the masses of those planets. It turned out that the masses of the outer planets, calculated by Earth-based observatories, were low by as much as 1%. When the correct masses were used to determine the orbits of the outer planets, the remaining discrepancies vanished.
Second, the trajectories of the space probes have revealed no discrepancies that can be accounted for by the gravitational pull of a large undiscovered object in the solar system. Many astronomers consider this the end of the Planet X hypothesis. This does not preclude the existence of objects potentially as massive as the Earth, which could escape detection in this manner, and would not create noticeable discrepancies in the orbits of the outer planets. Such an object could be considered "Planet X" only in the popular sense, not in the scientific sense.

 

[pupa]

Planet X does not exist, it's a myth.

Prometheus, I don't know where you get your info from but I understand how easy it is to find information on the web which appears to be true and legitimate, when in fact it's all a lie. There are a lot of self-serving conspiracy theorist idiots on the net who write out absolute b/s trying to convince people to conform to their twisted beliefs.

So take everything you read out here on the net with a large pinch of salt, and always try to get an objective source of information to compare with so you can find some semblance of truth in a matter.

Exit Mundi explanation of Planet-X, very interesting site about *possible* end of the world scenarios, I was up all night once reading them, very interesting!
http://www.exitmundi.nl/Planet-X.htm


Wiki entry for Planet-X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_x

Yeah just again someones viewpoint again. What about this recent discovery? Http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050729_new_planet.html Not planet X yet? but just make you ponder on how much or rather little we know about the solar system and then just base our beliefs on it! History as written by the ancients have been proven more factual and correct than a lot of PPL want to give credit for. Maybe you must read the experiences of the PPL 2000 years ago and relate to it Velikovsky's literature would be a good start although controversial

 

[JBFRobisher]

On my comments "If the shoe fits wear it" and post a derrogotive reply Else post some facts so I can determine if You have the intellegence to change my mind!

I suggest you learn to spell before expecting an intelligent reply.

 

[pupa]

Also, I'd like to share something that just occured to me.

I find it quite sad how religious people harp on about respecting people's religion as soon as something even mildly anti-religion is said. What it comes down to is having respect for other people's belief, which I agree with, however, there's a huge double standard. People who are not religious, still have their own beliefs, and they too should be respected. There's no reason for these rights to be exclusive to the religious. Atheists do have their own beliefs, and they have the right for their beliefs to be respected.

So pupa, I'd like to point out that most atheists or agnostics probably feel sorry for you.

Read my new signature! At least I believe in "Something" I have nothing against their belief system but referring to believers in derrogative ways is another issue. If a poster say here "I am a atheist or non believer" I will respect him for his honesty and would not say anything to his beliefs, I may pity them so they can pity me too, I feel for them. I am not a preacher neither affiliated to any church or other group, I just believe there is more to it than we know and it will be revealed or become common knowledge one day.

 

[pip]

As for planet X, it exists. It's a scientific fact. It's over 5 times the size of earth and over 100 times its mass. It has a magnetic core so powerful that it clashes with the electromagnetic fields of other planets in the solar system. A magnetic core powerful enough to swing around the magnetic core of earth. And guess what, it's heading our way again. Seems like now is the time for the nonbelievers to go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth exactly like the bible said they would.

What a pile of unadulterated sh1te.

 

[pupa]

I suggest you learn to spell before expecting an intelligent reply.

You replied! Thanks for your "intelligence" , much appreciated but this is not a spell or literature forum and have nothing to do with intelligence as you just revealed yours. I do use the primitive Google spell checker at times but is not really bothered. For an Afrikaans bred grown and schooled person I think my English could be better than your other capabilities!

Edit! By the way just your attitude and not even correcting the wrongly spelled word you found so frustrating shows your arrogance in life

 

[mooK]

At least I believe in "Something"

This sounds so defensive. Do you believe the mere belief of something makes you better than others? Clearly you do. In fact, I question your reasons for believing. Based on what you've said earlier, and your pity for others that don't believe, it seems to me that you believe what you believe purely to make yourself feel better and more comfortable.

A man once told me he believes in God because it makes his life easier and it allows him to set his mind at ease. I think this is true for most people, even if they're not completely aware of it. Unfortunately, I'm not able to forego my logic, close my eyes and believe in something blindly.

Pity me if you must.

 

[pupa]

This sounds so defensive. Do you believe the mere belief of something makes you better than others? Clearly you do. In fact, I question your reasons for believing. Based on what you've said earlier, and your pity for others that don't believe, it seems to me that you believe what you believe purely to make yourself feel better and more comfortable.

A man once told me he believes in God because it makes his life easier and it allows him to set his mind at ease. I think this is true for most people, even if they're not completely aware of it. Unfortunately, I'm not able to forego my logic, close my eyes and believe in something blindly.

Pity me if you must.

I do pity you. why does it offend you so much? Worried? I am not! I can tell you this I do not believe in the ANC or communism if that helps! But defending christianity? any time!

 

[Highflyer_GP]

i pity people who blindly follow and defend a 2000 year old story without making an attempt to make sense of it first. if one is born into a family of a certain religion, chances are they will stick to it, blindly following it, because they were raised with that belief in mind.

 

[pupa]

i pity people who blindly follow and defend a 2000 year old story without making an attempt to make sense of it first. if one is born into a family of a certain religion, chances are they will stick to it, blindly following it, because they were raised with that belief in mind.

Referring to me? Nope You have it wrong my dear? I grew up in a orphanage since very young and the NG church as religion, were forced there with living parents! by the NG church. Then got outta there under a Stepfather who was an Jehovah Witness. I then hated the church until today for what they did to me and my family. I hated the JW group for their lies and deceit! but I accepted god and Christ during this period and it never changed. So family religion took no part in this! As the book you refer too, just funny how many of the history and predictions comes to play and how many events is proven today as factual yet written by PPL that saw it in a religious light, but the Incas, Chinese, Indians and Russians saw it from different view points, yet they tie up with these "legends" of the old "book"!

 

[Highflyer_GP]

no pupa not referring to you mate, referring to people who blindly follows something. i have more respect for people who question a faith, try to make sense of it, and still choose to follow it because it made sense to them. but someone who blindly follows and defends something because it was hardwired into their brains due to their upbringing will get little sympathy from me.

 

[Prometheus]

From wiki
The distant space probes Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, and Voyagers 1 and 2 disproved the existence of Planet X, as hypothesized by Lowell, in two ways.

Aren't these probes the same ones belonging to a space agency who fitted the Hubble telescope with encryption so that they alone are privy to the information sent back and to what is released to the public and what is not. Give me an actual independant source without a clear agenda behind their motives. But, oh wait, there aren't any except scientists with actual credentials behind their names whos opinions who seem to disregard because it doesn't fit in with what you belief. Hahaha, How's that for hypocrisy.

History as written by the ancients have been proven more factual and correct than a lot of PPL want to give credit for. Maybe you must read the experiences of the PPL 2000 years ago and relate to it Velikovsky's literature would be a good start although controversial.

I think you hit the nail on the head. The Giza pyramids were built with such precision that we today are unable to match. Clearly the ancients were more advanced than us.

 

[Roman4604]

I think you hit the nail on the head. The Giza pyramids were built with such precision that we today are unable to match. Clearly the ancients were more advanced than us.

So let me get this straight ... the engineering knowledge & precision required to design & build the Giza pyramids was more complex then say .... the twin Petronas towers?