Cricket: International Discussion Thread

[WaxLyrical]

India are actually in a decent position at the moment...this is looking a good series in the making. Definitely need around a 200 lead at least though...this pitch is tough but people can bat for awhile if they knuckle down.

Kohli is having a shocker though...0,13,12,15. He'll probably put up a double ton in the next test

The Aussies are masters at making out of form key players feel like useless pieces of cow dung. Kholi no exception given previous controversy.

I must say the current Aussie crop are less arrogant than the Border, Waugh, Ponting and Clarke brigade.

 

[Neoprod]

End of Day 3 - India lead by 126 runs with 6 wickets remaining.

Good lead...need to see off the new ball in the morning tomorrow and bat another couple of sessions at least. I'm hoping they get bowled out with the lead around 200 - that would leave an interesting end to the match.

 

[Creag]

End of Day 3 - India lead by 126 runs with 6 wickets remaining.

Good lead...need to see off the new ball in the morning tomorrow and bat another couple of sessions at least. I'm hoping they get bowled out with the lead around 200 - that would leave an interesting end to the match.

The lead is approaching something menacing. Like you say, do hope for a quick trot through the remaining 6 Indian wickets. Too big a lead and there'll be less attraction to get the runs.

 

[Agent_Smith]

The lead is approaching something menacing. Like you say, do hope for a quick trot through the remaining 6 Indian wickets. Too big a lead and there'll be less attraction to get the runs.

David Warner is key then in this regard. He won't hold back no matter what the target is. And if he stays in for an extended period, no total will be big enough.

 

[Neoprod]

It's all happening...Sharma is bowling beautifully. Aus need another 166 runs with 9 wickets in hand.

 

[Agent_Smith]

Hmm...

9.1
Ashwin to Warner, OUT, lbw first ball. Long long chat, and they decide to review. Warner doesn't look convinced, but he has reviewed it. Warner has picked a ball too full to sweep and is beaten. The question is, has he got an edge or has it straightened enough? This is pitched outside off, the ball has straightened, and I don't see any part of ball in line. However, the machine is showing "umpire's call". I don't know how. I must be wrong, but I will need an explanation from somebody here. Don't see any part of ball in line. They show umpire's call. Both on impact and the stumps. On many more replays, perhaps one mm of the ball hit him in line. Oof

DA Warner lbw b Ashwin 17 (25b 0x4 1x6) SR: 68.00

 

[Dan C]

India making a comeback

Australia require another 87 runs with 4 wickets remaining

 

[Ho3n3r]

Hmm...

On many more replays, perhaps one mm of the ball hit him in line. Oof

That would make it the correct call(umpire's call). These commentators shouldn't speculate if they're not sure.

 

[Baxteen]

a picture of the warner LBW for those who want to see.

to me that looks 100% not in line not a chance that is umpires call.

https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/839014259841380352

 

[Baxteen]

That would make it the correct call(umpire's call). These commentators shouldn't speculate if they're not sure.

looking at the picture, its not umpires call. there is about 5 mm between the line of the stump and the point the ball bounces.

 

[Agent_Smith]

I thought they'd changed that rule now, whereby more than 50% of the ball had to be striking more than 50% of the wicket in order to be ruled as hitting...

 

[Ho3n3r]

looking at the picture, its not umpires call. there is about 5 mm between the line of the stump and the point the ball bounces.

:erm:

Not sure what image you were looking at, but there's no way there's even half a millimetre, if anything between the ball and the off stump. It's very conceivable that a little bit is touching, looking at it.

 

[Neoprod]

Jadeja to O'Keefe, OUT, Jadeja too good. He has created many wickets today, but now he gets one in his own ledger. O'Keefe plays a forward defensive to a length ball. The ball hits a crack, refuses to turn or bounce. It rolls along the ground to hit the stump mic on the middle stump. India two wickets away

Genuine skill that :erm:

 

[Agent_Smith]

Genuine skill that :erm:

Followed up by...

35.2
Ashwin to Handscomb, OUT, that's a 25th five-for for Ashwin. Is this another topspinner? No it is a regulation offbreak. Handscomb tries something desperate with only tail for company. Jumps out of the crease, doesn't get to the pitch of it, and hence tries a slog. The ball, though, explodes from the pitch and stands up to take a massive edge for Saha to claim running a few metres back
PSP Handscomb c †Saha b Ashwin 24 (67b 2x4 0x6) SR: 35.82

Another pearler of an Indian deck.

 

[Baxteen]

Aus all out.

this entire day's cricket has been utter BS. the way the pitch played made for unsportsman like things to happen.

and there are people saying the Warner wicket was similar to the Kholi wicket.
norafok.
Kholi was out because there was no way to prove what hit first, bat or pad.
WArner was out becacuse the machine was wrong.
that is not umpires call, that is 100% missing.

even in the picture you posted Ho3nder, that is miles away from the line.
the scale of the pitch means that if there is no blue under the side of the ball, it is missing the line, plain and simple.

I forsee a full investigation, there was a bribe paid for this wicket, I can smell it.

 

[Ho3n3r]

Aus all out.

this entire day's cricket has been utter BS. the way the pitch played made for unsportsman like things to happen.

and there are people saying the Warner wicket was similar to the Kholi wicket.
norafok.
Kholi was out because there was no way to prove what hit first, bat or pad.
WArner was out becacuse the machine was wrong.
that is not umpires call, that is 100% missing.

even in the picture you posted Ho3nder, that is miles away from the line.
the scale of the pitch means that if there is no blue under the side of the ball, it is missing the line, plain and simple.

I forsee a full investigation, there was a bribe paid for this wicket, I can smell it.

Well it's clear you've made your mind up, and in no hurry to accept evidence that proves otherwise. I have no idea on what earth you are seeing daylight between the ball and the stump on that pic I posted.

 

[R13...]

Well it's clear you've made your mind up, and in no hurry to accept evidence that proves otherwise. I have no idea on what earth you are seeing daylight between the ball and the stump on that pic I posted.

Yeah no way that ball misses the stump. Well something deflects it off at the last moment.

 

[Baxteen]

Well it's clear you've made your mind up, and in no hurry to accept evidence that proves otherwise. I have no idea on what earth you are seeing daylight between the ball and the stump on that pic I posted.

let me try and explain what I am seeing.

the ball is pitching outside off.
the ball straightens out.
so the impact on the pads to me, is outside off. not umpires call, to me, that is as far outside the line of the stump as the ball is when it was pitched.

this is why I think the wicket is BS

 

[Neoprod]

^, it hasn't straightened at a right angle though...a bit less than that. So on the whole it's still going in towards the stumps.

Not saying it's right or wrong but **** happens.

 

[Ho3n3r]

let me try and explain what I am seeing.

the ball is pitching outside off.
the ball straightens out.
so the impact on the pads to me, is outside off. not umpires call, to me, that is as far outside the line of the stump as the ball is when it was pitched.

this is why I think the wicket is BS

Yeah, but it's umpire's call, which means if even 0.1mm hits in line (no way to conclusively say it is or is not the case), it stays with umpire's call. Had the umpire given it not out, it would have been straight forward not out if India had reviewed it in such case.

Whether the rule is formulated correctly or not, is another discussion altogether, but I'm just saying there's nothing here to suggest cheating/irregularities, as the decision is correct according to current rules.

By the way, I looked at that pic in the tweet you linked, and the shadow on the pads distorts the view a bit, making it look like the ball is outside the line by like 3cm, but that's why the image without the batsman is more useful because that doesn't distort the DRS line with shadows.