Crime a 'major problem' says govt.

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Cape Town - The government on Wednesday acknowledged that the country's crime rate was a major concern ahead of its hosting of the soccer World Cup in 2010.

Patrick Matlou, deputy head of the national tourism department, told lawmakers during a briefing on preparations for the tournament that a detailed survey of crime-fighting technology was already under way in a bid to allay fears.

"As South Africa, we recognise this is a major problem ... both at a perception level and at a reality level," said Matlou.

"The challenge ... is to ensure that we overcome these issues, both at a marketing level and by ensuring that people are safe, feel safe, when they come here."

National crime statistics showed that nearly 19 000 murders were reported in the country of 47 million over 2004-2005, a 5.2% drop from 2003/2004.

South Africa has one of the highest rape statistics worldwide - more than 55 000 cases were reported by police last year.

President Thabo Mbeki has expressed his irritation at media reports which have questioned the safety of South Africa as a World Cup venue.

Matlou told MPs that about 445 000 foreign tourists were expected to flock to the country for the tournament - the first time that it has been staged in Africa.

Total revenue was expected to top R11bn, he added
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They have....

They've hired a spin doctor.

I mean that's only a 0.04% murder rate per annum, or a 0.24% chance of being raped and bothering to report it.

Of the 445 000 visitors for the world cup, only 178 should be murdered and (assuming about 25% of the visitors are female), 267 rapes.
 
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yes they have ackowledged it.... whoooo f#ck how long did it take for that
Now how long before they start act


ooog lemme guess, the demerit program is probaly part of the crime fighting tactict

nothing will happen, its just a media spin off

This is just another smoke screen to keep foreigners happy, that when they come their will be no crime.
 
It shouldn't have to take something like 2010 for a Government to admit something that's been a problem for years already and is just getting worse.
 
What I dont get is why hasn't goverment tried deploying the army to deal with these crime levels. Had any european country have these levels a national state of emergency would have been declared long ago.

I mean more people where murdered in SA during the lebanon israel conflict than in israel palastine and lebanon casualties combined!
 
Well at the very least this is a step in the right direction and I am glad about that.I think the next thing that will happen is that one of the ANC members will come out and say:aah, it's not really all that bad.

I see this report comes from Cape Town, why am I not surprised that they are the only major city to acknowledge the truth?
 
Dave A said:
Of the 445 000 visitors for the world cup, only 178 should be murdered and (assuming about 25% of the visitors are female), 267 rapes.
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Oops! That would be if the event took a whole year to complete. In the interests of accuracy the potential figures over the period of event (applicable to World Cup visitors only) would be about:

30 murdered, and
45 rapes (that get reported).

Assuming that visitors don't get targeted, of course.
 
2010 is all gonna be a big joke....hopefully i won't live here by then....think i'll move to america....

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Vio said:
What I dont get is why hasn't goverment tried deploying the army to deal with these crime levels.
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Army would even worsen it. Possibly find that some army groups are responsible for some crimes. Reports of ‘military precision and timing’, ‘military style resistance’ etc comes to mind.

IMHO it is a question of not being to solve the crimes, the judiciary taking to long on court cases and not enough prisons.

We keep on letting criminals free on parole and bail, where they actually commit the same crimes again.

Who is going to give a person on bail a job?

There are 2 sides to crime. The root cause and the permanent rehabilitation of the criminal.

Albeit poverty is not a sole excuse. Someone must have the will and courage to not let poverty be an excuse. On the other side there must be enough work to sustain these people. So point one : Willing workers and enough jobs for the unskilled. Both these factors must be present. But no we create skilled jobs with inflated salaries to build a new middle class. Eish.
 
In holand 93 people are murdered a year. In south africa 59 are murdered every day. That is the stark diffrence of the situation, like someone said earlier we are practicaly a war zone.

I don't think deploying the army would worsen it... I mean they could atleast search "suspected" gangs locations and things like that for firearms etc and if a fire fight broke out shoot the **** out of them. Trained soldiers patroling the highways and / or road blocks are also a option. Questioning people where they are going and why. These kind of things will drop crime very quickly.

LOL watch the goverment deploy the army to "protect" the visitors come 2010 and watch them "disapear" after the tournament is over. This goverment doesnt give a flying fu ck about its own citizens dieing every day.

They only "admit" crime is a serious problem now so they can look pretty for the press "yes we know it is a problem we are working on it" but realy they don't give a damn.

Like when our friend charls reports crime has gone down an astonishing 5% since 1994, however it seems to mee that our fences have gotten 400% higher and crime(especialy the reacent 'kick down your front door and torture you infront of your kids') has increased in the papers much much much more.

I think they talking out of their @ss when they say crime is reduced. If anything its gone up about 300% if not more.
 
Got broken into a while ago and the senior cop that came the next day to take fingerprints told me that the prisons are now so overcrowded that if you're sentenced to 6 months or less they don't even both imprisoning you, they just release you immediately. Wonderful.
 
Vio said:
What I dont get is why hasn't goverment tried deploying the army to deal with these crime levels. Had any european country have these levels a national state of emergency would have been declared long ago.
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Simple, the army is not trained to deal with this type of thing. The only time a European country would deploy their army for civilian policing would be to deal with serious violent unrest. And even then it is fraught with problems.
 
Just what we need - a police state.

Or ongoing open armed conflict between the army and heavily armed gangs. I think we should know by now that an urban guerilla conflict could run for years, even decades. The gangs certainly aren't going to just give up. They'll just add grenades, rocket launchers, etc. to the weapons they already stockpile.
 
TELESPHORE said:
Army would even worsen it. Possibly find that some army groups are responsible for some crimes. Reports of ‘military precision and timing’, ‘military style resistance’ etc comes to mind.

IMHO it is a question of not being to solve the crimes, the judiciary taking to long on court cases and not enough prisons.

We keep on letting criminals free on parole and bail, where they actually commit the same crimes again.

Who is going to give a person on bail a job?

There are 2 sides to crime. The root cause and the permanent rehabilitation of the criminal.

Albeit poverty is not a sole excuse. Someone must have the will and courage to not let poverty be an excuse. On the other side there must be enough work to sustain these people. So point one : Willing workers and enough jobs for the unskilled. Both these factors must be present. But no we create skilled jobs with inflated salaries to build a new middle class. Eish.
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The army is and will be part of the problem, taking sides, control and be masters of gangs etc. Have no trust in them or the current police regime! They are the majors in criminality it seems!
 
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