Crypto-mining botnets have returned

sajunky said:
Why me, don't be a lazy boy, do your own work. This ridicolous licence agreement had been widely commented with introduction of Windows 10, I don't need to bring it up again.
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So you're not going to include this section? Didn't think so! :crylaugh:
 
Barbarian said:
I wish they would share their miner. In addition to mining, it also makes your PC faster and more responsive.
Imagine if you can package it and sell it to the noobs who still use win 7
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More responsive? Especially when doing forced updates of the main cryptocurrency mining engine. .LOL.
 
Not that I agree with anything SAjunky is saying, but I've seen multiple users with win 8 sitting with 100% disk usage while the PC is idle
 
Suspect99 said:
Not that I agree with anything SAjunky is saying, but I've seen multiple users with win 8 sitting with 100% disk usage while the PC is idle
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That could be anything from windows updates to malware, excluding any 3rd party apps those PC's had installed, av scans, etc etc etc.

Also disk usage has ZIP to do with mining.
 
Deadmanza said:
That could be anything from windows updates to malware, excluding any 3rd party apps those PC's had installed, av scans, etc etc etc.

Also disk usage has ZIP to do with mining.
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I didn't say it had anything to do with mining. It just seemed to be a common problem possibly relating to Windows updates that I could not find a solution to online.
 
It hasn't been hijacked - an allegation has been made that MS is using all of our PCs to do mining (despite the inefficiencies) and that's related to botnets.

I've done my homework as requested and can't find anything to do with sajunky's claims. News like this would be all over the internet - we all like taking shots at Microsoft after all.
 
Suspect99 said:
Not that I agree with anything SAjunky is saying, but I've seen multiple users with win 8 sitting with 100% disk usage while the PC is idle
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I have seen this on my Win 10 PC...but it is because I installed win 10 on a PC with 3gb RAM and an ancient IDE HDD. If I leave it a while it finishes whatever it's doing and goes back to normal.
 
Deadmanza said:
That could be anything from windows updates to malware, excluding any 3rd party apps those PC's had installed, av scans, etc etc etc.

Also disk usage has ZIP to do with mining.
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Full of s&#t, none of them. I made my investigation on multiple PC's with the following results:

- It applies equally to the fresh installation, with no third-party apps/drivers installed.

- It has nothing to do with Windows updating itself, as Internet connection is cut. It supposed to be disabled as a principle I can't work on auto updating Windows.

- All suspected services like Windows Update service, Defender, BITS, indexing service, etc... are disabled

- The background prosess responsible for spurious disk activity is carefully hidden from the Task Manager. Disk activity stops immediately once you start using computer

- The only indication for background bot-net activity is a hard drive LED and a seek noise from the device. This ia the only things Microsoft cannot hide from the users, as it is a hardware feature.

A hardware SATA sniffer device is needed to find out what files are accessed, maybe someone can borrow one to me.

Crypto-mining works on large data structures, it evidently doesn't fit in 4GB of RAM, it is why constant swapping to the hard drive occurs. It may fit in 8GB or higher configurations then you will no notice of hard drive trashing syndrome - user feedback is required. Interesting that I also didn't notice hard drive trashing on PC's with 2GB RAM or lower. Is it a reason why 2GB RAM is not supported anymore???

Finally, it is relevant to this thread, as we have bot-nets active on our PC's since introduction of Windows 10.
 
sajunky said:
Finally, it is relevant to this thread, as we have bot-nets active on our PC's since introduction of Windows 10.
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Crypto-mining botnets? :crylaugh:

I have a Win10 PC with no Internet access, still lots of disk activity. Perhaps also mining for Microsoft? :crylaugh:
 
sajunky said:
Full of s&#t, none of them. I made my investigation on multiple PC's with the following results:

- It applies equally to the fresh installation, with no third-party apps/drivers installed.

- It has nothing to do with Windows updating itself, as Internet connection is cut. It supposed to be disabled as a principle I can't work on auto updating Windows.

- All suspected services like Windows Update service, Defender, BITS, indexing service, etc... are disabled

- The background prosess responsible for spurious disk activity is carefully hidden from the Task Manager. Disk activity stops immediately once you start using computer

- The only indication for background bot-net activity is a hard drive LED and a seek noise from the device. This ia the only things Microsoft cannot hide from the users, as it is a hardware feature.

A hardware SATA sniffer device is needed to find out what files are accessed, maybe someone can borrow one to me.

Crypto-mining works on large data structures, it evidently doesn't fit in 4GB of RAM, it is why constant swapping to the hard drive occurs. It may fit in 8GB or higher configurations then you will no notice of hard drive trashing syndrome - user feedback is required. Interesting that I also didn't notice hard drive trashing on PC's with 2GB RAM or lower. Is it a reason why 2GB RAM is not supported anymore???

Finally, it is relevant to this thread, as we have bot-nets active on our PC's since introduction of Windows 10.
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What tosh. You need to seek professional help.
 
sajunky said:
Full of s&#t, none of them. I made my investigation on multiple PC's with the following results:

- It applies equally to the fresh installation, with no third-party apps/drivers installed.

- It has nothing to do with Windows updating itself, as Internet connection is cut. It supposed to be disabled as a principle I can't work on auto updating Windows.

- All suspected services like Windows Update service, Defender, BITS, indexing service, etc... are disabled

- The background prosess responsible for spurious disk activity is carefully hidden from the Task Manager. Disk activity stops immediately once you start using computer

- The only indication for background bot-net activity is a hard drive LED and a seek noise from the device. This ia the only things Microsoft cannot hide from the users, as it is a hardware feature.

A hardware SATA sniffer device is needed to find out what files are accessed, maybe someone can borrow one to me.

Crypto-mining works on large data structures, it evidently doesn't fit in 4GB of RAM, it is why constant swapping to the hard drive occurs. It may fit in 8GB or higher configurations then you will no notice of hard drive trashing syndrome - user feedback is required. Interesting that I also didn't notice hard drive trashing on PC's with 2GB RAM or lower. Is it a reason why 2GB RAM is not supported anymore???

Finally, it is relevant to this thread, as we have bot-nets active on our PC's since introduction of Windows 10.
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Please point to the section of the license agreement that corroborates your bollocks statements.
 
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