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wizardofid said:
Shame

Saw something funny on steam, someone trying to appeal a 2000+ day old vac ban. Starting every post my "dear friends" and the chaos that ensued was funny as hell. Regardless people getting banned for stupid stuff is not on.

Played a comp match last night, with a bunch of aim bots and wallers, that was fun. Pieces of human excrement of the highest caliber......... My team was squeaky clean. The amount of new accounts in casual that are instantly good the last few weeks is sus as hell...
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I think Valve sits with a gigantic problem when it comes to cheating. Not only do some cheaters have massive Steam Community Market inventories, which may or may not link into third-party marketplaces, but they may have endorsed competitions where there may have been or not have been cheating involved. It is an iceberg.

You can’t chase cheaters to the courts, though you can chase those developing the cheats to courts. It is a costly exercise with little to no returns with a hard case which may go cold.

VACnet is clearly not all that well-trained, and VAC Live is exploitative.

It does question why other developers and anti-cheat developers are having realizable success in combating cheaters?

Valve's own community moderators have long held that cheating is a non-issue in CS. Valve themselves, never talks, except that they have covered at GDC in 2018 how they will use deep-learning to address cheating in their games.


In the end, the only way to contain this problem is to put these games into a container. I won't be surprised that cloud-gaming is actively pursued by developers to build their online games in. The problem is that only a minority have access and that cloud gaming cannot guarantee a standard at this time. Still many years to go, but clearly AMD and Nvidia are invested in this.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I think Valve sits with a gigantic problem when it comes to cheating. Not only do some cheaters have massive Steam Community Market inventories, which may or may not link into third-party marketplaces, but they may have endorsed competitions where there may have been or not have been cheating involved. It is an iceberg.

You can’t chase cheaters to the courts, though you can chase those developing the cheats to courts. It is a costly exercise with little to no returns with a hard case which may go cold.

VACnet is clearly not all that well-trained, and VAC Live is exploitative.

It does question why other developers and anti-cheat developers are having realizable success in combating cheaters?

Valve's own community moderators have long held that cheating is a non-issue in CS. Valve themselves, never talks, except that they have covered at GDC in 2018 how they will use deep-learning to address cheating in their games.


In the end, the only way to contain this problem is to put these games into a container. I won't be surprised that cloud-gaming is actively pursued by developers to build their online games in. The problem is that only a minority have access and that cloud gaming cannot guarantee a standard at this time. Still many years to go, but clearly AMD and Nvidia are invested in this.
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What annoys me is what is the point of cheating in casual and comp games when there is no monetary incentive, can understand on a professional level. Will however say that cheaters has changed the way I play the game, I rely a lot more on utility these days, just molly or nade the corners these fkers like to stand in, and avoid the common places they like to go. I also found in some instances smokes can also fk with their walls. Some times I will molly then smoke and negev the shyte out of them as they peak, some innocent players get caught in line for fire. Pretty much for the last year or two whenever I play I have the highest UD at the end of the round. Often end up having to play a far more aggressive game than I need to, and have developed some interesting smokes and tactics for most maps. Nothing better than seeing a cheater rage quit, when you manage to counter them.

I also found that most cheaters are completely useless without their cheats, the habits they learn from cheating doesn't work well, when they don't cheat.
 
wizardofid said:
What annoys me is what is the point of cheating in casual and comp games when there is no monetary incentive, can understand on a professional level. Will however say that cheaters has changed the way I play the game, I rely a lot more on utility these days, just molly or nade the corners these fkers like to stand in, and avoid the common places they like to go. I also found in some instances smokes can also fk with their walls. Some times I will molly then smoke and negev the shyte out of them as they peak, some innocent players get caught in line for fire. Pretty much for the last year or two whenever I play I have the highest UD at the end of the round. Often end up having to play a far more aggressive game than I need to, and have developed some interesting smokes and tactics for most maps. Nothing better than seeing a cheater rage quit, when you manage to counter them.

I also found that most cheaters are completely useless without their cheats, the habits they learn from cheating doesn't work well, when they don't cheat.
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Yeah well, latest incident in the pro scene.

 
wizardofid said:
Also the severs are down......on CS2 and GO........so whatever is going to happen is happening soon......
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Cheaters are going nowhere, neither are the players. I will complain about it when it is obvious, but there is nothing you can do about it. Overwatch is an experiment.

As I always say, get better, and do your best not to get stuck in ELO hell.

/cough, but let's not talk about alt accounts. A guilty pleasure ;)

Hmmmm, perhaps Mr. Pink need to have a GO at CS. At least he doesn't complain about hackers.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Cheaters are going nowhere, neither are the players. I will complain about it when it is obvious, but there is nothing you can do about it. Overwatch is an experiment.

As I always say, get better, and do your best not to get stuck in ELO hell.

/cough, but let's not talk about alt accounts. A guilty pleasure ;)

Hmmmm, perhaps Mr. Pink need to have a GO at CS. At least he doesn't complain about hackers.
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Lol make no mistake, I might moan here, but I just play the game, and in game I keep to my self.......silently swearing. Hey I have been improving a lot recently, my K/D is up to 1.8 now use to be around 0.9, so practically double now so all good.
 
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