Dear Patricia, filtering = censoring

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Hi all,

On Sunday night Patricia de Lille and I had a rather stormy debate on SABC3's Interface regarding the "regulation" of blogs and MXIT.

According to Patricia the solution is content filtering.. if something is "bad" just filter it out.

When I stated that filtering amounts to censorship, all hell broke loose and Patricia got really personal... accusing me of talking nonsense, questioning the University that awarded my degree and stating that she'll never appoint me as her lawyer.

Yes, sometimes I talk a lot of nonsense and sometimes I wonder how I ever got a law degree and I also don't want Patricia as a client... but on the filtering = censorship story I had it right... not because I say so, but because courts all over the world say so. A brilliant summary of the dangers of filtering by the Electronic Frontier Foundation: http://www.eff.org/Censorship/Censorware/19981214_ifea_nclis_statement.html (skip the Intro and Part I).

See generally: http://www.eff.org/Censorship/Censorware/ and http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=15035 and http://www.infosatellite.com/news/2002/12/p111202netresearch.html.

These links may "filter" out some of the "nonsense".

Regards,
 
Haha I saw that interview, a bit of a mess, did you guys end up getting anywhere? Because it didn't look like it :p

She kept accusing you of being a lawyer who's being paid to appear on TV, were you representing MXit as a client?
 
Isn't that slander of some sort? Insulting and questioning your integrity on national television?
 
Hi CRBuys

I did not know about the debate and sadly missed it. Do you possibly have a copy of the debate anywhere?
 
Yeah, that is rather off of her. Sis. I would also like to get a copy if possible :)
 
hi reinhardt

sounds like a fun evening spent arguing the obvious with the clueless intent on resolutely defending the indefensible

of course, while we know how she came to paint herself in this corner, personal is just such a give-away :)

cheers
 
also saw it ... and yes it was very messy ... and the presenter seemed to really like her ;)

but she didn't deal with how her policies would be implemented ... i was also a little disappointed that the whole thing focussed so much on mxit and not blogging as much - because that is probably more vital for free speech (of course any for of censorship including that of mxit is a problem...)

what I am interested to know is what the developed countries have done (as she mentioned so frequently) - unless she was talking about China then I am guessing she is simply talking about anti-abuse laws which afaik we have already - and these do not equal censorship...
 
Somebody youtube it, I'd like to see it as well. was at work and missed it
 
VJB 449 said:
Patricia de Lille is past her sell by date. Better for her to quietly disappear.
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Heard that one before. But she just bounces back. :)
Or is it the media that gives her too much attention?

I think the beginning of the end for Patricia's Political career was the day she sided with the ANC and supported MamaIndia Imperfekto for Mayor and made it very clear to her "independent" Councillors where they should make their mark.

The Politics in Cape Town so far has only slowed down service delivery to a crawl. The only people making anything are the Politician's themselves that earn salaries and retire with Pensions on the Ratepayers Account.

On the point of De Lille's now changed stance to more of a "filtering" story.
It is now clear she has been talking to a few people about what all these Blogs and Mixits and other such internet related things are all about.
I am of the opinion she was born BC (Before Computers), much like many other people in her age category. Nothing to be ashamed of, but rather keep your trap shut when you know little about the subject.

Not sure why De Lille is so aggro of late?
 
OMG.

Just now we will have a Menopausal De Lille coming after MyADSL. :D
 
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LAWL ... filtering does work in certain situations, and also acts towards actively encouraging other ways to describe stuff.
This forum is one example of that.

I saw the debate, and I do think that she was a little ... um ... panicky.
But .. she definately CAN be trusted with looking after stuff she believes in.

Also, she very effectively made people watching the interview think carefully about MXIT, which i recon was her objective number 1.
 
crbuys said:
When I stated that filtering amounts to censorship, all hell broke loose and Patricia got really personal... accusing me of talking nonsense, questioning the University that awarded my degree and stating that she'll never appoint me as her lawyer.
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Shame on her! :eek:

Damn, that's nasty.
 
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