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Dear Seacom,

I read that only 80 Gbps of bandwidth is currently available on the Seacom cable.
Are ISP's not really biting yet? Clients only using a small Percentage of the bandwidth?

I have a solution. you have the infrastructure now, now lets get ISP's to use it. want to know how? I'll tell you for free.

here goes:

Give some of that unused bandwidth to some ISP for cheaper - yep, donate it for free even, on the provision they WILL pass it on to customers.

what will happen is other ISP's will HAVE to jump in to compete with that, and start needing a slice/bigger slice of that Seacom pipe.

at the moment we all go on with our 2GB caps as normal - so ISP's don't even NEED to buy huge amounts of data at the moment...

Does seacom want it's very expensive cable to be used in little portions? won't they go bankrupt if all our ISP's combined, purchase and use only 10% of it's capacity for another 5 years?




IMHO they are the true players holding the key... they are in charge of their destiny in South Africa as well.


(a) They will either be a massive FAIL as costs can't be recovered, and go bankrupt. it's simple maths to figure if you spend 1 Billion Rand pipe but only make 1 million back a month. (not actual figures, just making a point)

or

(b) They can get all ISPs to start getting on with it already by sponsoring a few players for free/cheaper (provided it gets passed on to the customer) and get the other ISP's to NEED seacom. that's the keyword - NEED

Nobody NEEDS Seacom at this moment in time - all ISP's are in a stalemate - a "GridLock", and in a mode of "low usage" methods.

Seacom needs to break this Gridlock of low/no internet usage if it wants to be a sustainable business.

Thank you,
Keeper
 
Sounds like a good idea to me. Nothing preventing them from doing it.
 
it's either stimulate the market, or go bust with a "low usage" module.

they need to sell bandwidth - AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. in the current market climate it is impossible to do so.

heck seacom, you could even start your own ISP and create some competition through that - then there is no need to make a deal with some ISP.



Currently ISP's are raking in the money, selling almost NO BANDWIDTH for high prices - in this mode ISP's win, and you lose selling only a fraction of your Bandwidth.

Just provide 1 ISP that is cheap and affordable, and get everyone to NEED seacom to even compete with that ISP.
 
Most of us were under the impression that after seacom the caps (1Gig,3Gig,5Gig) would at least multiply 10 fold, thus 10G,30G,50G
and after www.mainonecable.com expected early 2010 or WACS :rolleyes: another 10fold, thus 100G,300G,500G

Except for possibly just r@ping us, are the ISP`s locked down under long term contracts that need to expire or what???
 
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What about that Non-Profit ISP?

Maybe they could even donate some to that Non-Profit ISP everyone on MyBB is talking about?

Cheap Bandwidth from Seacom, Cheap Bandwidth from the NPO ISP :o

I Reckon because the ISP is a NPO, Seacom would be more enticed to provide it to them, if they think this is a good idea.

who's in charge of the NPO ISP i'm talking about?:confused:
 
Exactly my thoughts. I was expecting to pay the same for 10x my cap. It seems I was a little naive. I'm just disappointed, really.
 
Trouble is i don't think seacom are the problem, the greedy F$%^ers in this country are the problem. Anyone who thought/thinks seacom was going to change was very naive sadly.

This is SA home of the greedy raping business people.
 
How about a MyBB forum user's consortium and everybody donates a couple of bucks and buying our own bandwidth and then sell it for cheap, not to make money but force the prices down. And try and see if we can get it as low as possible(we could buy the band with back at a better price they other and sell it to non Forum user's.
 
No, Seacom is not the problem - but if they don't get the south african market to use this pipe, seacom will be sailing the FAILBOAT.

They are in control IMO, because they CAN stimulate the market. if they don't IT IS going to be their problem.


The greedy ISP's are not only affecting us, they will be affecting Seacom as well.



It's simple really
We want Bandwidth, Seacom has it - if the middleman charges so much, we won't buy a lot, and Seacom doesn't sell a lot. (ISP still makes money)

*BAM!* Seacom CREATES heavy competition*

Effect?

ISP's buy more bandwidth to compete, they HAVE to - Seacom start selling their bandwidth. Users get better packages.


It's a fail-safe plan! :confused:
 
Keeper said:
Maybe they could even donate some to that Non-Profit ISP everyone on MyBB is talking about?

Cheap Bandwidth from Seacom, Cheap Bandwidth from the NPO ISP :o

I Reckon because the ISP is a NPO, Seacom would be more enticed to provide it to them, if they think this is a good idea.

who's in charge of the NPO ISP i'm talking about?:confused:
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Hi Keeper,

Thanks for the PM. :)

Just to mention what others need to hear also.

I have contacted the SEACOM CEO, about a month ago, but have not heard back from him yet.

I asked him to take a look at the NPO ISP thread, and let me know if SEACOM would be interested, in a tax deductable donation of bandwidth access, once we were registered.

I feel we may need to be registered first, before we will be considered by any company, wishing to take advantage of the tax deductions, recieved for support/products/financial donations given to NPOs.

I will be contacting all the cable companies and Infraco for such assistance, although I have a feeling we will be purchasing cable subscriptions, due to enough clients joining us.

Donations will be welcomed by the general public. It must however, be strictly controlled.

We will deal with nationally renowned external auditors.

All donations would have to be into the single bank account of the NPO ISP, via EFT or the website donate button

The following excerpt from our Constitution, will be prominently displayed on all our advertising and the website.
No cash, cheques, money orders or any other form of payment whatsoever, other than via Electronic Funds Transfer or credit card, may be handled or dealt with by the organisation or any member thereof, in the execution of it's/their duties, on behalf of the organisation.

All payments to the organisation will be strictly via Electronic Funds Transfer or credit card. All payments by the organisation will be strictly via Electronic Funds Transfer.
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Will Seacom make difference?

Hi I am new here and was hoping that Seacom would make a difference.

There are amazing SaaS (Software as a Service) offerings available for companies to use, but w/o proper bandwidth accessing data / applications that reside o'seas remains a problem?
 
The money that SEACOM earned by selling 80Gb will pay for the cable already. They don't need to sell more bandwidth just yet.
 
you guys did not read the 1st post...

it's not about:
"Seacom didn't change anything"
"ISP's are greedy"
etc..

this is about seacom throwing a spanner into the works by creating such a massive competition that other ISPs start selling bigger CAPs/uncapped for better prices.

this is about getting SA out of this 512MB Cap/1GB Cap/2GB Cap SLUMP that it is in.

"They don't need to sell more bandwidth just yet"

hmm...afaik they are a business, that invested a LOT of money into this pipe, and need to sell as much of it as possible.

this will not happen if ISP's keep selling 2/3GB Caps.
 
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